I see them worknig either in the early morning, or at dusk.
I do not see landings or launching at night.
Here's night ops as I would define them:
...and here:
J-15 carrier-borne fighter thread
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I do not see landings or launching at night.
Here's night ops as I would define them:
...and here:
I don't think Russians removed SS-N-19 it is not a big modernisation than Chinese have do and during several years.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
It doesn't really matter if it doesn't happened on this exercise. Clearly preparation is underway and it will be done next time around. We can see it from this video. This shot must be at dusk going into night as we can clearly see the sky is progressively getting darker. This is the longest exercise I ever know starting at the end of November and still continuing. And many first like first time pass the 1st island chain, first time live firing, first time that many J15 etc. they clearly get mileage out of Liaoning and prepare as many cadre for the next Carrier. Don't forget it is only 4 years since Liaoning was commissioned. I give it another year until she reached FOC
For a navy that never operate Carrier and nobody trained them that is tremendous achievement
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Soviet navy formulated ASCM-based approach in second half of 1950s, as a way of opposing crushing NATO naval superiority with reliance on emerging technologies. Partially it worked, but one critical problem was what no missiles could compensate for lack of aviation beyond coastal "umbrella".
It isn't just vulnerability to air strikes(as if it isn't enough) - it's whole set of different vulnerabilities in reconnaissance, asw, targeting, etc.
There actually was ironic saying "soviet oceanic nuclear-missile navy". Ironic part was, it was notoriously restricted in everything short of actual nuclear war, diminishing own value as political tool greatly.
Even in this end war scenario everything was based on centers' ability to make decisions fast. Carrier-less navy simply hadn't enough survivability to wait for any decisions, if cold war was to suddenly become less cold. Aside from being extremely expensive "one trick pony" it had one more major problem:
I believe most guys here know about US political discussion about their own land based nuclear missiles, namely - their vulnerability to catastrophic mistake(in case of incoming salvo you don't have time to think very much about possible mistakes - either you shoot, or your missiles will end up buried with you). Now imagine yourself to be a Soviet politburo guy, with yet another huge, "finger on button" nuclear force, located not in safety of Nevada desert, but deployed thin around whole globe, constantly contesting over something with someone.
Scary prospective, isn't it?
This inflexibility finally led to decision to procure own full-sized carriers.
But, with overall strategy revolving around massive, coordinated multi axis ASCM salvoes - emerging aircraft vessels were also to participate. Basalt(SS-N-12), Granit(SS-N-19) are huge beasts: you simply don't have too many ships which can carry them.
Carriers were meant not to attempt to mimic American naval structure, but to give fulcrum to existing one:
-ensure task force will be capable to get into launch position;
-disrupt opponents' use of airspace(ASW, EW, C4&AEW, recon, etc);
-protect own aviation assets;
-help ASCMs salvoes to reach their target;
-disposal of smaller threats, if necessary.
And only afterwards - strikes against land targets, etc.
Notably, most of above-mentioned tasks don't require excessive sortie rate, associated with strike missions.
Blackstone
Brigadier
That smoke or contrails?