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Jeff Head

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I thought this is an excellent article. They are gaining experience in blue water operation and the tempo and frequency keep increasing year by year. I guess the dream to break out from the tyranny of 1st island is being realized. All those choke point will be heavily contested in the future
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China Takes to the Blue Water
Posted on December 30, 2016By Todd Crowell
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Sailing, sailing, over the bounding main…

Beijing discards Mao’s instruction that the land outweighs the seas

The recent well-publicized venture by China’s first and so far only aircraft carrier, the Liaoningoutside of its familiar coastal waters into the western Pacific and off the coast of Taiwan, is a signal event in China’s ambition to field a true blue-water navy.

When China’s navy looks beyond its coastal waters, which it increasingly does, it sees a kind of Great Wall, except that, from their point of view, this wall is meant to keep China pinned in and not to keep the barbarians out. It is now seeking to break out beyond that wall.

The Chinese call this the “First Island Chain,” a line of islands, some small, others huge, extending from the Japan archipelago to the north, the Ryukyu island chain past Taiwan and the Philippines to the south. The waters within this arc are considered an integral part of China itself.

The Liaoning and its escorts, two frigates, four destroyers and an oiler, entered the open sea through the Miyako Channel, a wide strategically located strait between Okinawa and Miyakojima. They returned to China through the Bashi Strait separating Taiwan from the Philippines.
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Great post...but they used a pic several years old. You can tell by the pennant numbers all being black.

They have long since changed all of those to the white-shadowed numbering like on US, Japanese, Australian, and other vessels.
 

Blitzo

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Great post...but they used a pic several years old. You can tell by the pennant numbers all being black.

They have long since changed all of those to the white-shadowed numbering like on US, Japanese, Australian, and other vessels.

It's even worse than that actually -- the picture they used is an old CGI rather than a real picture.

It is rather baffling especially considering the good real pictures of Liaoning and her escorts that we had in recent weeks.

I imagine the author just googled "Liaoning carrier strike group" and chose one they thought looked neat without actually considering its veracity.
 

Jeff Head

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It's even worse than that actually -- the picture they used is an old CGI rather than a real picture.

It is rather baffling especially considering the good real pictures of Liaoning and her escorts that we had in recent weeks.

I imagine the author just googled "Liaoning carrier strike group" and chose one they thought looked neat without actually considering its veracity.
Yep...just lazy I guess.

I mean a simple Google search of "Chinese carrier group in the Pacific" would probably ave turned up something pretty nice...and recent....like this one using that search:

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plawolf

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Yep...jys lazy I guess.

I mean a simple Google search of "Chinese carrier group in the Pacific" would probably ave turned up something pretty nice...and recent....like this one using that search:

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As a commercial publisher, I do not think they can just randomly use images from the internet, and would instead need permission from the picture owner to use it in an article.

Otherwise the picture owner can sue them for breach of IP, so maybe it's not just pure laziness/incompetence but more down to commercial realities.
 

superdog

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What is going to happen to Wu Shengli, the current commander?
Shen (the man in the picture) became the commander of the South Sea Fleet, not the PLAN. The previous commander of the South Sea Fleet, Jiang Weilie, became deputy commander of the PLAN. Nothing changed with Wu.

And this is not news, all of these happened in the end of 2014. Not sure if A.Man is hinting on something different, my quick search did not reveal any new changes.
 

A.Man

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Shen (the man in the picture) became the commander of the South Sea Fleet, not the PLAN. The previous commander of the South Sea Fleet, Jiang Weilie, became deputy commander of the PLAN. Nothing changed with Wu.

And this is not news, all of these happened in the end of 2014. Not sure if A.Man is hinting on something different, my quick search did not reveal any new changes.

Shen Jinlong has become the PLAN commander today.
 

superdog

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Shen Jinlong has become the PLAN commander today.
I checked again, not seeing any official announcement, just another forum post on cjdby which was also made by you. Shen Jinlong was promoted to vice admiral just a few months ago and only had two years of experience as fleet commander (quite a bit shorter than peers at his level or higher). Him being promoted NOW to be the top commander of PLAN is not impossible, but doubtful.

What is your source?
 
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