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Blitzo

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Nice looking ship, is she using Ukrainian or domestic engines?

I don't think any new Chinese surface ship built in the last five years has used imported engines.

The last big import reliance was for the initial two vessels of the 052C/052B classes which relied on imported DN80 gas turbines, but from the third 052C onwards all of the gas turbines have been domestic QC-280s.
And of course all of the diesels used in frigates and replenishment vessels and amphibious assault ships have been domestically produced licensed powerplants.

Given this is a training ship, and looking at its smoke stack/exhaust, I imagine its propulsion is diesel. So to answer your question, this ship (along with most if not all other recent surface ships for the Chinese Navy) shoudl be using domestic engines, yes.
 

kroko

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The last big import reliance was for the initial two vessels of the 052C/052B classes which relied on imported DN80 gas turbines, but from the third 052C onwards all of the gas turbines have been domestic QC-280s.

What is the relation betwen gt-25000 (ukrainian engine) and qc-280 ? i remember long ago someone saying in this from that qc-280 was a domestic and more powerful version of gt-25000. But in the net it says that it is simply a domestic version of gt-25000, no power augmention.
 

Hendrik_2000

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What is the relation betwen gt-25000 (ukrainian engine) and qc-280 ? i remember long ago someone saying in this from that qc-280 was a domestic and more powerful version of gt-25000. But in the net it says that it is simply a domestic version of gt-25000, no power augmention.


According to KANWA QC-280 is improvement from the DA80/QT-25000. Not sure how reliable is KANWA. But when it come to Russian or Ukrainian sources they seem to have connection . Qin Hong He was trained as Russian translator. Based on the subsequent GT model China has now the technology to developed marine gas turbine
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Kanwa visited Ukraine’s Zorya JSC several times and learned from the company that it had to provide China parts and components for QC280. When China assembled and put into operation the engines, it had to provide lots of information and advices. Sometimes, it was requested to send experts to China.

QD280 consumes less fuel, has greater power than DA80 due to the improvements.

On the basis of the development of QC280, China is now developing R0110 heavy gas turbine with power output of 114,500kw and heat efficiency of 36%. The turbine has passed expert evaluation and will be used on China’s homegrown aircraft carrier.
 
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tphuang

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There is no indication that RO110 will be used in anything other than civilian sector.
 

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China's new class of minesweepers 082II on sea trail...
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Hull made of GRP to reduce magnetic signatures...
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Hendrik_2000

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There is no indication that RO110 will be used in anything other than civilian sector.

There is nothing that prevent it from using it as naval power plant. All you have to do it is to make the compressor section corrosion resistant which is within China capability.

It is not like in aerospace where weight and volume is important. I talk to naval officer once and he told me that naval power plant is almost identical to civilian power plant
 

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There is nothing that prevent it from using it as naval power plant. All you have to do it is to make the compressor section corrosion resistant which is within China capability.

It is not like in aerospace where weight and volume is important. I talk to naval officer once and he told me that naval power plant is almost identical to civilian power plant
Except that when China develops its gas turbines, they normally all have a QD and QC variant where QD is civilian usage and QC is military usage. Except for RO110, which they simply never designed with naval usage in mind. There has never been any legitimate sources on Chinese bbs that said it would be. It's quite clear that China has their version of LM-2500 in QC-280 that they are mass producing and happy with. Please come up with real sources.
 
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