SamuraiBlue
Captain
Here is a vid giving a detailed explanation on how JASDF carries out a scramble launch intercepting a incoming.
Basically they were given plenty of warning before making further maneuver to fly beside.
The official statement from the Chinese MOD is that the Japanese F-15s were lighting up their fire control radars.
If that wasn't the case, shouldn't the Japanese government be denying this happened, instead of trying to play down the entire situation? And did the Japanese newspaper report that the Japanese pilot was going to fire "tracer rounds"?
I can see how this why this is happening though, as China is making a statement that its airplanes will keep pushing, and will simply push harder the more that Japan keeps trying to defy China.
Plus the Japanese fighter pilots in Okinawa are being run ragged and the planes are being worn out, so it shouldn't be surprising they make mistakes or become more desperate.
That is based on the sheer number of scrambles taking place, which is partly due to how much larger the Chinese Air Force is, but also how the Japanese ADIZ and the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands runs way closer to the Chinese mainland than to the Japanese Home Islands.
Plus there was a comment from SB about another this potentially being another Hainan Island incident, but based on what we know, it would have been more similar to the previous Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands incidents.
And in those incidents, Japan came off way worse than China did.
Eg. The diplomatic shock and awe campaign that China launched against Japan.
Or Japanese companies being shut out of China, so there was a recession in Japan whilst the Chinese economy actually grew faster from domestic production.
If that wasn't the case, shouldn't the Japanese government be denying this happened, instead of trying to play down the entire situation? And did the Japanese newspaper report that the Japanese pilot was going to fire "tracer rounds"?
I can see how this why this is happening though, as China is making a statement that its airplanes will keep pushing, and will simply push harder the more that Japan keeps trying to defy China.
Plus the Japanese fighter pilots in Okinawa are being run ragged and the planes are being worn out, so it shouldn't be surprising they make mistakes or become more desperate.
That is based on the sheer number of scrambles taking place, which is partly due to how much larger the Chinese Air Force is, but also how the Japanese ADIZ and the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands runs way closer to the Chinese mainland than to the Japanese Home Islands.
Plus there was a comment from SB about another this potentially being another Hainan Island incident, but based on what we know, it would have been more similar to the previous Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands incidents.
And in those incidents, Japan came off way worse than China did.
Eg. The diplomatic shock and awe campaign that China launched against Japan.
Or Japanese companies being shut out of China, so there was a recession in Japan whilst the Chinese economy actually grew faster from domestic production.
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SamuraiBlue
Captain
Plane that does scramble launch are not armed with mid/long range radar guided missiles since they are to intercept approaching craft and give warning at a moment notice taking too much time to check various missiles so they are limited to short range type 90 IR seeking missiles.
So being lighted up doesn't make sense since the missiles aren't radar guided missiles in the first place.
So being lighted up doesn't make sense since the missiles aren't radar guided missiles in the first place.
@SamuraiBlue
On the Japanese F-15s being pre-authorised to fire tracer rounds, is that really true?
If so, it beggers belief that the Japanese Air Force want to escalate the situation, given how it would be easily outnumbered by the number of equivalent jets that the Chinese Air Force could put into the skies over the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands.
Plus from public articles on fighter pilot training in China, there has been a revolution in training methods over the past few years, and a huge improvement in pilot skill levels and flight hours.
On the Japanese F-15s being pre-authorised to fire tracer rounds, is that really true?
If so, it beggers belief that the Japanese Air Force want to escalate the situation, given how it would be easily outnumbered by the number of equivalent jets that the Chinese Air Force could put into the skies over the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands.
Plus from public articles on fighter pilot training in China, there has been a revolution in training methods over the past few years, and a huge improvement in pilot skill levels and flight hours.
SamuraiBlue
Captain
In your imagination - they certainly did.
Japan did come off worse.
The world witnessed China runs rings around the Hatoyama government, and it was described as a diplomatic shock and awe campaign by neutral European observers.
Plus the banks released reports showing the Japanese recession was due to the decline in Japanese exports to China. In comparison, Chinese, American and European companies saw sales boom in that period.
The world witnessed China runs rings around the Hatoyama government, and it was described as a diplomatic shock and awe campaign by neutral European observers.
Plus the banks released reports showing the Japanese recession was due to the decline in Japanese exports to China. In comparison, Chinese, American and European companies saw sales boom in that period.
I think what taxiya want from you is the information of this specific event not the general procedure of JASDF. Frankly speak the video only give us an general idea of how the japanese fighter might behave (which is some years ago and we don't know if there is a policy change) but offer no detail about this incident.
Stay on topic guys!
This is "Japan Military News" thread.
Not Sino-Japan diplomatic relations, politics and economy thread.
We should focus on the Military part.
SamuraiBlue's video provides some insight on JASDF's procedures and we should compare the description from the news reports and this video.
The JASDF pilots trying to warn the Y-8 in Chinese part is hilarious tho.
Kudos for trying I guess.
I remember listening to a recording of communication between a Chinese airliner and an American airport control tower. I guess this is how the American flight control thought.
This is "Japan Military News" thread.
Not Sino-Japan diplomatic relations, politics and economy thread.
We should focus on the Military part.
SamuraiBlue's video provides some insight on JASDF's procedures and we should compare the description from the news reports and this video.
The JASDF pilots trying to warn the Y-8 in Chinese part is hilarious tho.
Kudos for trying I guess.
I remember listening to a recording of communication between a Chinese airliner and an American airport control tower. I guess this is how the American flight control thought.