F-22 Raptor Thread

Jeff Head

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Raptors in Japan.

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Nice... a full dozen operational F-22s right there.
 

FORBIN

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R we expecting trouble??
Coincidence and number regurlarly deployed to Kadena where very possible they go after the training
From Alaska it is a very direct road to Japan and it is not by chance that the 2nd front line Wing on F-35A, with 2 sqns begin in 2019, be based to Eielson...

The U.S. Air Force has deployed 12 Alaska-based F-22 Raptor multirole jets to Yokota airbase, near Tokyo.
Twelve F-22s belonging to the
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, Alaska, have arrived at Yokota airbase, in western Tokyo, on Jan. 20.

The dozen Raptor stealth fighters
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by 14 F-16s from the 18th Aggressor Squadron, based at Eielson AFB, Alaska, and will be involved in a previously scheduled joint training in Japan.

Although it’s still not clear whether the aircraft belong to an Air Force
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, their presence in the region will also “promote” stability amid growing tensions in the Asia-Pacific theater following
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and the election of a pro-independence president in Taiwan.

F-22s often deploy to Japan since the USAF has started rotating fighters to Pacific Command bases in March 2004 “to maintain a prudent deterrent against threats to regional security and stability.”
However, the stealth jets usually deploy to
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, home of the 18th Wing, the largest combat wing in the U.S. Air Force composed by F-15s, E-3s AWACS, KC-135s and HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopters.

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siegecrossbow

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Coincidence and number regurlarly deployed to Kadena where very possible they go after the training
From Alaska it is a very direct road to Japan and it is not by chance that the 2nd front line Wing on F-35A, with 2 sqns begin in 2019, be based to Eielson...

I guess I need to apologize to Jeff since there are 12 raptors, not 14. Fourteen referred to the number of F-16s.
 

Air Force Brat

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I guess I need to apologize to Jeff since there are 12 raptors, not 14. Fourteen referred to the number of F-16s.

And its this type integrity that elevates most SDF posters to the status of extra-ordinary gentlemen, our few hold-outs who are never wrong are maddening, even when given sufficient evidence of their folly they continue to be "internet experts".

Oh well, Siege, thank-you buddy, I sometimes make those same type of errors, and with the volume of information, and the diverse sources it is very difficult to maintain accuracy, It is so refreshing here on SDF to know that 99% of our posters are bringing their very best, and correct themselves when they do make those little in-evitable boo-boos, but 12 Raptors is still a bunch.;)
 

b787

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Yes stealth is not invisibility Ultra. It's passive Electronic Camouflage.
If the Russians and PRC were so sold on being able to Kill stealth they wouldn't be building J20 or PAKFA or all there other stealth projects.

Even when dealing with so called Stealth killer radar finding a Stealth platform is not easy. Stealth killer Radar just means that it's producing more energy to try and get a larger return on stealthy targets.
The Closer the Stealth is to the emission source the better the return and that's the trick.
At ranges the Stealth is still stealth If a F22 is flying at the outer ranges of a Radar system it's still pretty much indefinable as a target but the closer it gets the more visible it is. This differs from a conventional non stealthy in that at extended range the radar would get a clean profile and see it.
The Secret of stealth is not just the shaping of the fighter it's the mindset of the user. The next Trick of stealth is detecting enemy Radar transmissions and using them to map a safe course around the perimeter of there detection net. so as to penetrate and conduct operations.
F-22 is visible do you want a proof? easy light is a electromagnetic wave, like radar waves are electromagnetic waves, our eyes are passive radars, F-22 has a shadow too showing it does reflect radar and light, stealth only works if the radar is pretty weak, but stealth is only radar cross section management with the goal of making more expensive the detection of an aircraft, eventually stealth will be rendered obsolete as radars get stronger and by that i mean more powerful by means of emission and smarter by means of discrimination.

The F-22 is very likely stealthy upon certain models of radars, early Su-27`s radars will not see it but at very few miles from it. same early radars on Mirage 2000, F-18s, MiG-29s, F-16s or F-15. but that can not be always possible with newer radars, IRSTs and SAMs


The Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye maybe the U.S. Navy’s secret weapon against the emerging threat of enemy fifth-generation stealth fighters and cruise missiles....................................

Effectively what that means is that small stealth aircraft that do not have the size or weight allowances for two feet or more of radar absorbent material coatings on every surface are forced to make trades as to which frequency bands they are optimized for.

That would include aircraft like the Chengdu J-20, Shenyang J-31, Sukhoi PAK-FA and indeed the United States’ own Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and tri-service F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.


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A simple question can F-22 detect another stealth fighter and can western radars detect stealth fighters? the answer is yes, stealth is only radar detection reduction upon certain radar models
 
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Air Force Brat

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F-22 is visible do you want a proof? easy light is a electromagnetic wave, like radar waves are electromagnetic waves, our eyes are passive radars, F-22 has a shadow too showing it does reflect radar and light, stealth only works if the radar is pretty weak, but stealth is only radar cross section management with the goal of making more expensive the detection of an aircraft, eventually stealth will be rendered obsolete as radars get stronger and by that i mean more powerful by means of emission and smarter by means of discrimination.

The F-22 is very likely stealthy upon certain models of radars, early Su-27`s radars will not see it but at very few miles from it. same early radars on Mirage 2000, F-18s, MiG-29s, F-16s or F-15. but that can not be always possible with newer radars, IRSTs and SAMs




A simple question can F-22 detect another stealth fighter and can western radars detect stealth fighters? the answer is yes, stealth is only radar detection reduction upon certain radar models

Ace, this is the F-22 thread, once you emit, you R DEAD! now go on back to your anti stealth thread, you R emitting loads of stuff? You have no proof of anything, and your Buddy Pierre is busted on Wiki, look up the "fighter mafia" and read it all. He has NO aeronautical degree, he has no engineering degree, and he is NOT a pilot! that's why he is in the music business now? he got "busted" as a Bull Shooter? The airplane he pretends to have designed now has a very powerful radar and lots of EW equipment, it always has had all those things he claimed were useless on a light fighter? He has been professionally run out of town by legitimate professionals in the biz.
 

Hyperwarp

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A simple question can F-22 detect another stealth fighter and can western radars detect stealth fighters? the answer is yes, stealth is only radar detection reduction upon certain radar models

I read a rather peculiar piece few years back. During plain F-22 1-on-1, that is one raptor against another, neither have any AWACS or ground support. During the battle.......well...........nothing actually happened. The 2 jets couldn't locate each other, and completely missed each other :confused:o_O:oops:
 
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