ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

[Jura The idiot]

We are shown the incident here in Japan as well.

hey SamuraiBlue, welcome to Syria Thread ...

Looks as if Putin is bombing areas unrelated to IS since the place the Su-24 was shot down was on the coastal area near the Mediterranean which is anti-Assad rebel territory unrelated to IS.
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I concur: this has been going on since the beginning of October, including the area where
Syrian Turkmen live, and only two days ago Turkey protested against Russian air-strikes in said area (not to repeat myself:
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/is...no-oped-no-policis.t6913/page-247#post-376500
Russian sources used)

and for example
Oct 18, 2015

... while yesterday
3 Russian helicopter gunships launch attack on Talbiseh in Homs

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as you can see, Talbiseh is a pocket of anti-Assad resistance isolated for years ...

 

[GreenestGDP]

Rest In Peace.

Our deepest condolences to the Russian soldiers family and
to the Great Russian nation who are sacrificing their well beings
to protect all of us from daesh ISIS evils and for the sake of much better and peaceful world.

 

[aksha]

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Radar reconnaissance airfield Hmeymim noted a violation of the airspace of Syria attacking the Turkish Air Force aircraft, the chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff, Lieutenant-General Sergey Rūda Tuesday.

"This fact is regarded as a flagrant violation of international law with the most severe consequences and a direct violation of the Memorandum on the prevention of accidents and safety in the Syrian Arab Republic, signed with the United States and applies to all coalition countries, including Turkey," - he said.

On Tuesday, the Russian Su-24 crashed in Syria. Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the plane was shot down by a rocket-type "air-air" to the Turkish F-16s over Syrian territory, and fell in Syria, four kilometers from the border with Turkey. The Russian president called it a "stab in the back" by the accomplices of terrorists.



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All actions strike aircraft of the Russian Federation IN SYRIA WILL BE ENGAGED IN ONLY UNDER COVER fighters - General Staff





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[Jura The idiot]

details of the Russian rescue mission are coming out:

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reportedly this video shows finishing off the already abandoned helicopter (and indeed doesn't show anything graphic):

 

[wych]

I recall that in 2012 a Turkish military aircraft was shot down by Syria in Syrian airspace.

According to BBC News at the time: "Mr Erdogan spoke of Turkey's "rage" at the decision to shoot down the F-4 Phantom on 22 June..."A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack," he said.

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...said that "it is routine for jet fighters to sometimes fly in and out over [national] borders"".

 

[delft]

Russia has found a first way to hit Turkey: the country is dangerous for tourists because of terrorism.
Turkey is largely dependent on Russian natural gas so there is the possibility of hitting the Turkish economy by cutting off the gas supply.
Turkish companies are very active in Russia and without throwing them out, just by not giving them new contracts Turkey will be severely hit.
All the neighbours of Turkey with the exception of Bulgaria and Azerbaijan are friends of Russia. What will be the effect on them and their effect on Turkey?

 

[Janiz]

All the neighbours of Turkey with the exception of Bulgaria and Azerbaijan are friends of Russia. What will be the effect on them and their effect on Turkey?

That's really good point here! We won't see an all-out war this time I'm sure so it's worth to think about for a while. Closer ties with Central European countries like Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Romania? I bet China would be happy about that It seems like mutual love grows between PRC and this region of Europe.

 

[cn_habs]

Turkish leaders are either alarmingly arrogant or stupid.

It's bad for world peace either way.

 

[thunderchief]

Russian Ministry of Defense admitted the loss of one Mi-8 in SAR operation . They also announced they would escort strike fighters from now on, and would preventively destroy any target presenting potential danger . All military ties with Turkey are cut, Russian citizens are advised not to travel there.

 

[janjak desalin]

I wish EU will never ever let Turkey to join EU. I don't want a terrorist living next door.

Turkey is never, Never, NEVER, getting into the EU. Cyprus and Greece will see to that!