J-10 Thread IV

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Just thinking about the J10 programme as a whole as well as the Flanker programme

These days as soon as a fighter jet enters service it's needing to be continuously updated

Problem with is that if you are building a large number of aircraft like China the upgrade programme needs to keep pace otherwise you will end up with a very expensive failure

Thing I like about PLAAF that they are doing really good job keeping all aircraft in pace with upgrades all variants have some sort of improvement in place

Building is the easy part keeping them operational with the latest technology is the harder part

It's a continuous cycle that never ends

Like building a aircraft, the air wing and crew cost as much as the carrier itself
 

delft

Brigadier
Just thinking about the J10 programme as a whole as well as the Flanker programme

These days as soon as a fighter jet enters service it's needing to be continuously updated

Problem with is that if you are building a large number of aircraft like China the upgrade programme needs to keep pace otherwise you will end up with a very expensive failure

Thing I like about PLAAF that they are doing really good job keeping all aircraft in pace with upgrades all variants have some sort of improvement in place

Building is the easy part keeping them operational with the latest technology is the harder part

It's a continuous cycle that never ends

Like building a aircraft, the air wing and crew cost as much as the carrier itself
I suppose you start thinking about the organization of the maintenance/update process/plant no later than halfway through the design process.
 

Schumacher

Senior Member
According to Adam.Y on his observations on some differences regarding AL-31FN engines and Taihang engines:

The AL-31FN engines afterburner takeoff flames looks glamorous blue that's very beautiful to look at, Taihang engine afterburner takeoff flames on the other hand is mainly red and purple somewhat similar to RD-93's color.

The afterburner sounds also different from each other, with Taihang engine seems much deeper, heavier, and steady like bass. And AL-31FN engine sounded more explosive that makes your internal organs tremor.

And J-20 number 2016 with afterburner takeoff also sounded different than previous J-20s. It's got this strong puff sound just like a Taihang equiped J-10B he saw once. Haha.....

And regarding rumors of J-31 in CAC is not true, at least he didn't see it. Don't believe all the internet rumors and think about the information yourself. And lastly he is not very happy about people using his pictures without giving out credits and removing his watermark from the pictures.:confused:

The information about AL-31FN and Taihang engines afterburner flame is obviously not new at all, but the reason I did a little translation on his post was because what he said about the 2016 engines difference right after that is kind of interesting. It seems like he was hinting about something.......:p

seavon make the J-10B pics into a gif.



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The latest souped up twin-engined Taihang on J16 has blue flame, just saying.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
Just thinking about the J10 programme as a whole as well as the Flanker programme

These days as soon as a fighter jet enters service it's needing to be continuously updated

Problem with is that if you are building a large number of aircraft like China the upgrade programme needs to keep pace otherwise you will end up with a very expensive failure

Thing I like about PLAAF that they are doing really good job keeping all aircraft in pace with upgrades all variants have some sort of improvement in place

Building is the easy part keeping them operational with the latest technology is the harder part

It's a continuous cycle that never ends

Like building a aircraft, the air wing and crew cost as much as the carrier itself


Absolutely right ... and only countries with big defense budget can afford that .... most countries simply couldn't afford that
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Pilot helmet seems to be a little bit "bulky". Maybe a new HCS related with PL-10???
Regards

They would have been developing one for the missile, and that helmet does show some signs of a bulge, but too much of the head and helmet is obscured in that show to be able to tell for sure.

We need better pictures!
 
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