Indian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Miragedriver
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It always make me sad to see a majestic vessel be reduced to pots and pan to be sold later at Ikea…
Workers climb a ladder in to the rusting hulk of India's first aircraft carrier INS Vikrant at a ship-breaking yard in Mumbai, India. The iconic naval vessel, that was purchased from Britain in 1957, played a key role during the India-Pakistan war of 1971 and was decommissioned in 1997.
I will now get back to bottling my Malbec
Workers climb a ladder in to the rusting hulk of India's first aircraft carrier INS Vikrant at a ship-breaking yard in Mumbai, India. The iconic naval vessel, that was purchased from Britain in 1957, played a key role during the India-Pakistan war of 1971 and was decommissioned in 1997.
I will now get back to bottling my Malbec
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More on the delivery of India's 6th P8-I from the Times of India. This is the sixth of the initial eight and it is almost certain that the option for four more will be executed. And possible quite a few more after that.
India received three in 2013, this is the 3rd in 2014, and two more are scheduled for 2015. It is the only other nation, outside of the US Navy that has deployed, operational P-8 aircraft.
Australia has also ordered the aircraft and it is likely that the UK and others will too.
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Times of India said:
India received three in 2013, this is the 3rd in 2014, and two more are scheduled for 2015. It is the only other nation, outside of the US Navy that has deployed, operational P-8 aircraft.
Australia has also ordered the aircraft and it is likely that the UK and others will too.
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HMS Astute
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Obviously, P-8 doesn't offer the capability that the M0D requires especially when it comes to the range. Even the old decommissioned MPA like Nimrod offered the range of up to 9,265km, Nimrod MRA4 with it's 11,119km compared to only 2,222km of P-8. I wish UK defence contractors would propose new MPA programmes like Nimrod II which will be superior to P-8 at least in terms of range, payload, and speed.
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#AviaIndra From Indo-Russian joint exercise held @ Halwara
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The Shivalik vessels are a very good FFGs. And the Indians built them themselves.
Too bad they only have three of them and do not have 5 to 9 more of them.
FORBIN said:
They do have a good number of Talwars (6 altogether), which also are good vessels, but they were built be Russia.
Your statement needs significant clarification.
You refere to the 2,222 kms (from Wikipedia I presume) as the range for the P-8, when that is not the case at all. That is the Combat Radius which is a significantly different term.
The P-8A has a 1,200 nautical mile combat radius (2,220 km). The P-8 team has defined that to mean that it can go out 1,200 nautical miles, and then remain on station patrolling for 4 hours, before having to RTB. It's crusiing speed while on patrol is 450 knots. So it has a significantly longer range than what you refer to.
And that is unrefueled. The P-8A is capable of inflight refueling so it can arrange to remain on station or get to whatever AO it needs to and remain there for very long periods of time.
While there it can provide it ample weapons store, including a very large number of sonar buoys, Torpedoes, surface to air missiles, etc. as well as its very advanced and sophisticated sensors and electronics to its mission.
Now, let's talk about the Nimrod.
As designed and produced it was unable to do inflight refueling. But it did have that magnificent unrefueled range of between 8,500 and 9,200 liometers depending on conditions.
During the Flaklands war, the MR2P refit was rushed into production so that it could be refueled in flight. However, in September 2006, while over Afghanistan, a Nimrod exploded in flight right after refueling resulting in the loss of all onboard and the aircraft. The resulting inquiry showed that there was a fundamental design flaw with the Nimrod's fuel system, whicb resulted in part from the hastily performed air-to-air refuelling modification made for the Falklands conflict. From that point, all inflight refuleing was suspended for the Nimrod fleet until their retirement.
But it was indeed a good aircraft and served very ably for decades. Due to poor decision making and delays by government officials, now the UK has now MPA capability.
So, right now, the UK is looking at the P-8A. And the P-8A is a very good, very capable MPA and ASW aircraft. I personally believe that the UK will end up purchasing P-8As. But time will tell.
But to say that the P-8A is inadequate for the UKs needs is just incorrect.
Will the UK choose them? We shall see. Maybe not. But they are available and they are being seriously considered.
BYW, since they are UK News related, I copied your post and my response to the UK Military News thread.
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