Espionage involving China

[TyroneG]

My Main man Gordon Chang.

 

[Blackstone]

My Main man Gordon Chang.

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What's the point, Tyrone? How about presenting your arguments for discussions and debates? I'll start with Gordon Chang: Mr. Chang has been consistently wrong with his doomsday predictions on Chinese society and economy. China hasn't crashed, it hasn't disintegrated, and it's citizens strongly support the national government. When called on his errors, Chang simply pushes Chinese Doomsday out another year or two. So, what about your "main man Gordon Chang?"

 

[Hytenxic]

What's the point, Tyrone? How about presenting your arguments for discussions and debates? I'll start with Gordon Chang: Mr. Chang has been consistently wrong with his doomsday predictions on Chinese society and economy. China hasn't crashed, it hasn't disintegrated, and it's citizens strongly support the national government. When called on his errors, Chang simply pushes Chinese Doomsday out another year or two. So, what about your "main man Gordon Chang?"

To be honest, this explains a lot of Tyrone's posts.

 

[Franklin]

Very interesting if true that Chinese hackers have been able to obtain large quantities of information about the Iron Dome and the Arrow 3 missile defense systems. The Iron Dome is pretty much useless to China but the Arrow 3 will be very useful to China. Too bad the author of the article spend so much time on the Iron Dome and only mentions the Arrow 3 at the end. And why is it so hard for these companies or the military to just store this kind of data on a separate hard drive or a computer that is not connected to the internet ?

Chinese Hackers Target Israel’s Iron Dome

A PLA cyber unit targeted Israeli defense companies involved in developing the coveted Iron Dome missile defense system.

Chinese military hackers stole information relating to Israel’s much-touted Iron Dome missile defense system, according to a recent report by the cyber security website, Krebs on Security.

“Three Israeli defense contractors responsible for building the ‘Iron Dome’ missile shield currently protecting Israel from a barrage of rocket attacks were compromised by hackers and robbed of huge quantities of sensitive documents pertaining to the shield technology,” the report says, citing analysis by the Columbia, Md.-based threat intelligence firm Cyber Engineering Services Inc. (CyberESI).

The hackers penetrated the systems of three top Israeli defense firms — Elisra Group, Israel Aerospace Industries, and Rafael Advanced Defense Systems — between October 2011 and August 2012, according to CyberESI (although the initial phishing emails went out in April 2011). CyberESI says that most of the information the Chinese hackers targeted was “intellectual property pertaining to Arrow III missiles, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), ballistic rockets, and other technical documents in the same fields of study.” This and other information led CyberESI to conclude that the hackers were interested in Israel’s “Iron Dome” missile defense system.

The timing of the cyber intrusions is also consistent with this conclusion. The Iron Dome was first deployed in March 2011 and intercepted its first missile from Gaza a month later. That same month is when the first phishing emails were sent to the firms.

According to CyberESI, the attacks against the Israeli firms “bore all of the hallmarks of the ‘Comment Crew,’” a now-infamous cyber unit in the People’s Liberation Army. The Comment Crew, which is officially designated PLA Unit 61398, first rose to public prominence when the Virginia-based cyber security firm Mandiant profiled it in a report it released in February of last year. The five PLA hackers whom the U.S. officially charged with crimes this spring were also members of Unit 61398, which is based out of Shanghai.

Israel’s mobile, all-weather Iron Dome missile defense system targets missiles with ranges between 4-70 kilometers, although Israel is currently trying to expand that range. The batteries all have sophisticated radars that allow them to determine the destination of the intended target. The system is therefore able to ignore missiles that are headed towards open fields or unimportant sites. Among the missiles it does target, however, it reportedly has an astonishing interception rate of as high as 90 percent. During the current Gaza War, the Iron Dome missile systems had an interception rate of 86 percent as of July 20, according to the Israeli military. This is why one military analyst has said that “Iron Dome is [possibly] the most-effective, most-tested missile shield the world has ever seen.”

Although the Iron Dome system was mostly developed by Israeli defense firms — first and foremost Rafael — it has largely been funded the United States. If the FY2015 U.S. defense budgets are approved, the U.S. will have given Israel nearly $1 billion in funding for the Iron Dome system over the last five years. By contrast, Israel has invested nearly $600 million. According to Yair Ramati, the head of Israel’s Missile Defense Organization, the U.S. has paid for seven of the eight Iron Dome batteries Israel currently deploys.

In contrast to the Iron Dome Missile System itself, the U.S. and Israel jointly developed the Arrow 3 missile that was also targeted by the PLA hackers. The head of CyberESI told Krebs on Security, “Most of the technology in the Arrow 3 wasn’t designed by Israel, but by Boeing and other U.S. defense contractors. We transferred this technology to them, and they coughed it all up. In the process, they essentially gave up a bunch of stuff that’s probably being used in our systems as well.”

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[A.Man]

中国逮捕两名加拿大间谍 涉嫌窃取中国国家秘密

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2014-08-05 07:16:19 环球时报

【环球时报记者 王亚斌】据新华社4日报道，加拿大公民凯文·高(Kevin　Garratt)、朱莉亚(Julia Dawn Garratt)因涉嫌从事窃取我国家军事和国防科研秘密的活动，于8月4日被辽宁省丹东市国家安全局依法审查。目前，案件正在审理中。

一名外交学院学者告诉《环球时报》记者，国外对我国的间谍活动一直没有停止过，这个没有硝烟的战场始终存在。“这些年，我们的经济社会以及国防军事等各个方面有了长足发展，一些外国想要了解中国更多的东西。既然这两个加拿大间谍现在被抓了，那就说明我们掌握了足够的证据，证明他们确实有危害我们国家安全的行为。”

Auto Translation:

China arrests two Canadian spies suspected of stealing Chinese state secrets


2014-08-05 07:16:19 Global Times

[Global Times reporter Wang Yabin 4] According to Xinhua News Agency reported that a Canadian citizen Kevin Gao (Kevin Garratt), Julia (Julia Dawn Garratt) on suspicion of stealing my secret national military and defense research activities is on August 4 Dandong City, Liaoning Province, the National Security Agency to review the law. Currently, the case is pending.

A Diplomatic Institute scholar told the "Global Times" reporter, foreign espionage against our country has not stopped, this is not a battle is always there. "Over the years various aspects of our economy and society, and defense and military has made ​​great progress, a number of foreign countries want to learn Chinese more. Since these two Canadian spy was caught now, it shows that we have got enough evidence to to prove that they do have acts endanger our national security. "

 

[broadsword]

China arrests two Canadian spies suspected of stealing Chinese state secrets

So, no Hollywood ending for them. They had a very inconspicuous facade, been in China since 1984 and operating a cafe.

 

[Blackstone]

中国逮捕两名加拿大间谍 涉嫌窃取中国国家秘密

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2014-08-05 07:16:19 环球时报

【环球时报记者 王亚斌】据新华社4日报道，加拿大公民凯文·高(Kevin　Garratt)、朱莉亚(Julia Dawn Garratt)因涉嫌从事窃取我国家军事和国防科研秘密的活动，于8月4日被辽宁省丹东市国家安全局依法审查。目前，案件正在审理中。

一名外交学院学者告诉《环球时报》记者，国外对我国的间谍活动一直没有停止过，这个没有硝烟的战场始终存在。“这些年，我们的经济社会以及国防军事等各个方面有了长足发展，一些外国想要了解中国更多的东西。既然这两个加拿大间谍现在被抓了，那就说明我们掌握了足够的证据，证明他们确实有危害我们国家安全的行为。”

Auto Translation:

China arrests two Canadian spies suspected of stealing Chinese state secrets


2014-08-05 07:16:19 Global Times

[Global Times reporter Wang Yabin 4] According to Xinhua News Agency reported that a Canadian citizen Kevin Gao (Kevin Garratt), Julia (Julia Dawn Garratt) on suspicion of stealing my secret national military and defense research activities is on August 4 Dandong City, Liaoning Province, the National Security Agency to review the law. Currently, the case is pending.

A Diplomatic Institute scholar told the "Global Times" reporter, foreign espionage against our country has not stopped, this is not a battle is always there. "Over the years various aspects of our economy and society, and defense and military has made ​​great progress, a number of foreign countries want to learn Chinese more. Since these two Canadian spy was caught now, it shows that we have got enough evidence to to prove that they do have acts endanger our national security. "

I'm only surprised it took this long for the CCP to grab some poor pawns in retaliation for US arresting Communist spies. The Garratts should have been more careful about taking Chinese donut and coffee recipes.

 

[GreatWall]

中国逮捕两名加拿大间谍 涉嫌窃取中国国家秘密

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2014-08-05 07:16:19 环球时报

【环球时报记者 王亚斌】据新华社4日报道，加拿大公民凯文·高(Kevin　Garratt)、朱莉亚(Julia Dawn Garratt)因涉嫌从事窃取我国家军事和国防科研秘密的活动，于8月4日被辽宁省丹东市国家安全局依法审查。目前，案件正在审理中。

一名外交学院学者告诉《环球时报》记者，国外对我国的间谍活动一直没有停止过，这个没有硝烟的战场始终存在。“这些年，我们的经济社会以及国防军事等各个方面有了长足发展，一些外国想要了解中国更多的东西。既然这两个加拿大间谍现在被抓了，那就说明我们掌握了足够的证据，证明他们确实有危害我们国家安全的行为。”

Auto Translation:

China arrests two Canadian spies suspected of stealing Chinese state secrets


2014-08-05 07:16:19 Global Times

[Global Times reporter Wang Yabin 4] According to Xinhua News Agency reported that a Canadian citizen Kevin Gao (Kevin Garratt), Julia (Julia Dawn Garratt) on suspicion of stealing my secret national military and defense research activities is on August 4 Dandong City, Liaoning Province, the National Security Agency to review the law. Currently, the case is pending.

A Diplomatic Institute scholar told the "Global Times" reporter, foreign espionage against our country has not stopped, this is not a battle is always there. "Over the years various aspects of our economy and society, and defense and military has made ​​great progress, a number of foreign countries want to learn Chinese more. Since these two Canadian spy was caught now, it shows that we have got enough evidence to to prove that they do have acts endanger our national security. "

Seems like nothing more then propaganda after Canada just busted Chinese hackers going into their national defense systems. We are all aware of how laughable and unregulated the Chinese court system is so I expect these two will be found guilty regardless if they are innocent. That is one aspect of Chinese society that desperately needs changing, the corruption and professionalism in the legal system. Thankfully things look as though they are getting better, but it's not nearly good enough.

 

[solarz]

Seems like nothing more then propaganda after Canada just busted Chinese hackers going into their national defense systems. We are all aware of how laughable and unregulated the Chinese court system is so I expect these two will be found guilty regardless if they are innocent. That is one aspect of Chinese society that desperately needs changing, the corruption and professionalism in the legal system. Thankfully things look as though they are getting better, but it's not nearly good enough.

Ridiculous. If the Chinese government randomly arrested foreigners whenever it feels slighted by the West, no foreigners would be going to China.

A much more likely possibility is that the couple had been in the Chinese government's sights for a while now, and they chose to time the arrest as a response to the Canadian government's hacking claim. By the way, that claim is just that: claims. No substantial proof have been presented yet.

If you think the Harper government doesn't time their announcements for political reasons, you're living in fantasy land.

 

[Equation]

中国逮捕两名加拿大间谍 涉嫌窃取中国国家秘密

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2014-08-05 07:16:19 环球时报

【环球时报记者 王亚斌】据新华社4日报道，加拿大公民凯文·高(Kevin　Garratt)、朱莉亚(Julia Dawn Garratt)因涉嫌从事窃取我国家军事和国防科研秘密的活动，于8月4日被辽宁省丹东市国家安全局依法审查。目前，案件正在审理中。

一名外交学院学者告诉《环球时报》记者，国外对我国的间谍活动一直没有停止过，这个没有硝烟的战场始终存在。“这些年，我们的经济社会以及国防军事等各个方面有了长足发展，一些外国想要了解中国更多的东西。既然这两个加拿大间谍现在被抓了，那就说明我们掌握了足够的证据，证明他们确实有危害我们国家安全的行为。”

Auto Translation:

China arrests two Canadian spies suspected of stealing Chinese state secrets


2014-08-05 07:16:19 Global Times

[Global Times reporter Wang Yabin 4] According to Xinhua News Agency reported that a Canadian citizen Kevin Gao (Kevin Garratt), Julia (Julia Dawn Garratt) on suspicion of stealing my secret national military and defense research activities is on August 4 Dandong City, Liaoning Province, the National Security Agency to review the law. Currently, the case is pending.

A Diplomatic Institute scholar told the "Global Times" reporter, foreign espionage against our country has not stopped, this is not a battle is always there. "Over the years various aspects of our economy and society, and defense and military has made ​​great progress, a number of foreign countries want to learn Chinese more. Since these two Canadian spy was caught now, it shows that we have got enough evidence to to prove that they do have acts endanger our national security. "

Looks like the MSS are doing their job of protecting the secrets of the J-20, J-31, DF-21D, DF-41, etc. from spies.