PLAN invited to participate in RIMPAC for first the time (2014)

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People are less psychologically affected on a personal level with increase in distance to enemy and abstraction, and directness of combat method employed. The grunts would feel much stronger personal emotions against opponents who were trying to shoot at him personally or in close contact combat than a personnel on a ship, who would be inclined to think of the action as more ship against ship rather than men on ship against men on ship.

On Killing by Dave Grossman was an interesting read.

Lt. Col. Dave Grossman was a speaker at Ft. Lewis at the time when I was training there and he was an amazing person and officer. One of the best motivator speaker I've ever met, and he knew how to rile the cadets at the time for the hardest part of the camp (platoon ops). I haven't read his book yet, but I knew others who did and we discussed a lot about it.

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Jeff, thanks again for your perspective. I'm just trying to think through the alleged benefits of an exchange. If a U.S. naval officer had a close relationship with a Chinese citizen, especially Chinese military or intelligence individual, that would raise some serious eyebrows among the U.S. government, would it not? Of course it's possible to maintain close relationships with foreigners without disclosing confidential information but neither the U.S. nor Chinese governments are going to trust all their millions of defense personnel to do that. As a result, they monitor and put restrictions on the level of international contact between their military personnel and foreigners, right?

As long as the classified information are clarified to both military personnel on the restrictions as regarding to what can or can not be discuss in public. If either one can't keep their mouth shut than they both have no business being station in such high intensive classified environment in the first place. I'm sure these personnel are all screen to the best of the departments ability before even being assign to it.

 

[Blackstone]

Lt. Col. Dave Grossman was a speaker at Ft. Lewis at the time when I was training there and he was an amazing person and officer. One of the best motivator speaker I've ever met, and he knew how to rile the cadets at the time for the hardest part of the camp (platoon ops). I haven't read his book yet, but I knew others who did and we discussed a lot about it.

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Do you mean Ft. Lewis, WA? What year were you there?

 

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Do you mean Ft. Lewis, WA? What year were you there?

Yep, during the summer of 1996. Yes it's been that long.

 

[by78]

Spot the Type 730 CIWS:

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Representatives of RIMPAC participants took a tour of the ships of the Chinese task force. All images are hi-res but have small file sizes:

 

[kwaigonegin]

People are less psychologically affected on a personal level with increase in distance to enemy and abstraction, and directness of combat method employed. The grunts would feel much stronger personal emotions against opponents who were trying to shoot at him personally or in close contact combat than a personnel on a ship, who would be inclined to think of the action as more ship against ship rather than men on ship against men on ship.

On Killing by Dave Grossman was an interesting read.

Yes makes sense which is why I think there is more of a bond between sailors than the soldiers of different countries.

 

[bd popeye]

Originally Posted by Geographer
During the Cold War, was it normal for American and Soviet military officers to be friends? How would that affect their careers?

No..we never trained with the Soviets...a Soviet sea story;

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/popeyes-sea-stories-4-6261.html#post220313

I served during the Cold War. The Russians watched the US..the US watched Russia. This was really true at sea. There was always a Russian ship trailing the JFK, America, Hancock or Midway...By the time I got on the Nimitz that all had ceased.

Usually it was a Russian trawler. Sometimes Soviet aircraft would over fly us always accompanied by F-4s or Tomcats.

The first time I saw some Soviet sailors up close and personal was in Barcelona SP in May 1972. We were anchored out. We hadda take a liberty boat to go on liberty. we went on liberty and after a while we found our way near the port services and low and behold a Soviet trawler and destroyer or frigate was tied up. We decided we would try to take a tour of said vessels but those smelly old Russians did not allow visitors in 1972. Those Russian mates were not allowed off the ship. Too bad so sad! So they just sat in port twiddling their thumbs and doing the five knuckle shuffle all the while we Americans were partying our butts off. No foolin'!! As we walked away from the ships some Russian sailors were gesturing to us to get them some kind of booze and marijuana or hashish and of course porn. Shame shame shame... we felt sorry for those mates. but what could we do? I did hear a tale that some fine JFK sailors tossed them a satchel full of goodies in the still of the night.

no foolin'!

..and in another forum;

As c62 stated guys a sailor is a sailor no matter what flag their ship flies. I guarantee you if there had ever been a confrontation between the USN and USSR at sea and one or the other nation lost the ship and sailors were in the water the victor would rescue those sailors. Period.

 

[by78]

No..we never trained with the Soviets...a Soviet sea story;

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/popeyes-sea-stories-4-6261.html#post220313



..and in another forum;

Speaking of these Soviet trawlers. Were they fast enough to keep up with a carrier? Did they ever try to pick up trash tossed from the US carriers (to glean intelligence)?

 

[Jeff Head]

Guys...let's get back on topic to the RIMPAC 2014 exercises, and the Chinese participation.

Here's a bunch more pictures form my

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USS Peleliu, LHA-5 and LCAC landing, fire control, Helo landing, and Catholic Mass aboard ship

Fire Drill aboard USNS Mercy, Hospital Ship

U.S. Vice Adm. Kenneth Floyd, commander of U.S. Third Fleet, and also commander of RIMPAC-2014, gets a tour of a PLAN FFG

US Navy medical personnel aboard PLAN Peace Ark Hospital Ship

US Navy personnel performing a Foreign Object Search on the USS Ronald Reagan, CVN-76. flight deck

Brunei Navy Offshore Patrol Vessel, mooring at Pearl Harbor

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[Jura The idiot]

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Is this a

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on the

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? I put this on my Facebook profile, so I want to be sure (and a moment ago I couldn't find Google Pictures of that gun) ... thanks