PRC military aviation export/sales

Pinko

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Hi,
lets settle to your thought for this time but how will they KSA will integrate these J35 into their airforce though Saudis are not operating any SAM, awacs(Chines) so until unless they start using Chinese awacs with china made SAM integrated systems etc J35 will be like a toy in their hands, on the other hand PAF already operating Chinese systems with with electronic warfare systems and with awacs too with their own link17, so let’s see who will get it first KSA or PAF.
thank you
You seems not to get what he means: Pakistan is the buyer, but real fund can come from Gulf. The said fund of 12 billions USD is said to buy whole package of J35AE+ KJ500 + HQ19.
 

Black Wolf

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I'm curious if by "much upgraded JF-17s" he means retrofitting some of the current Block 1 and 2 fleet or more Block 3.

The Dy. CAS’s reference to “more advanced JF-17 variants” during the press briefing is certainly intriguing, though somewhat confusing at this stage. We will likely have to wait for further details or clarification to better understand exactly which variant/configuration he was referring to.

That said, the PAF has already indicated on multiple occasions that it does not intend to invest further in the Block-I/II fleet. Effectively, after the MLU of the Block-I aircraft, the fleet now largely stands at Block-II/III standard. This is why the mention of “more advanced JF-17s” has sparked further speculation regarding what exactly may be under consideration.

For the latest fleet status, refer to my post #7110 for the complete update.
 

Tomboy

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I wonder if J-10 can eventually reach as widespread of a service record as atleast the two European 4.5th generation fighters. If so, J-10 could be the first step of the Chinese MIC in gaining a genuine foothold in the global manned fighter market.
 

Gloire_bb

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I wonder if J-10 can eventually reach as widespread of a service record as atleast the two European 4.5th generation fighters. If so, J-10 could be the first step of the Chinese MIC in gaining a genuine foothold in the global manned fighter market.
Only rafale can be counted as proper widespread.
Eurofighter is member nations+gulf(protection money)+Austria(famous bribe)+TAF(not_rafale).
 

Andy1974

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Just realized the date. About one year now from that day:)


At this point I feel like a modern LIFT would be in order, and I haven't heard any procurement news. The current solution for training seems less than optimal once fleet size grows and integrates next-gen. Can someone more knowledgeable inform me as to what's going on?
A LIFT fighter would be too similar to JF-17. maybe they can make a JF-17 trainer that leads into J-10C, and if they can make a twin engine next generation “JF-27”, it can lead into and support J-35AE.

According to the link in sieges’ post, there may be 200 exports of JF-17, which is a Chinese fighter also, I don’t know if we will get to 200 J-10CE’s to be honest.
 

CasualObserver

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Only rafale can be counted as proper widespread.
Eurofighter is member nations+gulf(protection money)+Austria(famous bribe)+TAF(not_rafale).
TAF’s is also a recent order, split evenly between new aircraft (to be delivered in 2030) and "lightly used/near-new" ones; and the delivery of those "lightly used" 2nd-hand aircraft would mean Qatar would cease to be an operator unless it places a new order. That 2nd-hand delivery schedule also depends on the fate of the Gulf and whether peace is achieved anytime soon.
 
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