New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

Michael90

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lol 625 cars sold a month is peanuts to be honest, that’s out of over 400,000 cars sold that month in Japan. In fact it’s a non event .
The thing is Japan is probably the most conservative country on earth I know of(and I have travelled extensively around the world) . They are some of the most nationalistic people when it comes to their national brands. Reason very very few foreign brands (including western brands) have a major market share in Japan. It’s rare for a foreign brand to be dominant there. So in this aspect, I actually found that the Chinese are more liberal minded than the Japanese to be honest.
 

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lol 625 cars sold a month is peanuts to be honest, that’s out of over 400,000 cars sold that month in Japan. In fact it’s a non event .
The thing is Japan is probably the most conservative country on earth I know of(and I have travelled extensively around the world) . They are some of the most nationalistic people when it comes to their national brands. Reason very very few foreign brands (including western brands) have a major market share in Japan. It’s rare for a foreign brand to be dominant there. So in this aspect, I actually found that the Chinese are more liberal minded than the Japanese to be honest.

There is no reason why Japan cars are not displaced from the Chinese market, with all these superior Chinese gasoline and EV models.
 

Michael90

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There is no reason why Japan cars are not displaced from the Chinese market, with all these superior Chinese gasoline and EV models.
Yeah, as I said the Japanese are a different breed of people. Probably one of the few places ont he wold were the people will still rather choose a national brand even if that brand is slightly worse off than a foreign one. That’s one reason I always smile whenever I see some of my countrymen in Europe complain about China being protectionist and favoring local brands. lol they have no idea Chinese are actually some of the most liberal minded people in east Asia (Koreans are a bit similar to Japanese in this aspect in being very nationalistic in capturing their own, but Japanese are the worse ).
If Japanese and Korean EVs were leading the world technologically like Chinese brands , then believe me western /foreign brands will barely have any sales in their market. lol
 

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Yeah, as I said the Japanese are a different breed of people. Probably one of the few places ont he wold were the people will still rather choose a national brand even if that brand is slightly worse off than a foreign one. That’s one reason I always smile whenever I see some of my countrymen in Europe complain about China being protectionist and favoring local brands. lol they have no idea Chinese are actually some of the most liberal minded people in east Asia (Koreans are a bit similar to Japanese in this aspect in being very nationalistic in capturing their own, but Japanese are the worse ).
If Japanese and Korean EVs were leading the world technologically like Chinese brands , then believe me western /foreign brands will barely have any sales in their market. lol
Are your friends all under the age of 20?
Foreign branded cars were the go to for anyone who could afford them from 1990s to just before 2020s. Crazy to say that China favoured local brands before.

Side note, modern South Korean nativism is derived from Japanese nativism. The Japanese nativism is the product of the right wing nationalists who were never removed from power after the Allied victory. Former SK President Park Chung Hee (in power for 20 years) was an enthusiastic participant in the Japanese colonial army and adapted the Japanese right wing politics for Korea.
 

Michael90

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Are your friends all under the age of 20?
Foreign branded cars were the go to for anyone who could afford them from 1990s to just before 2020s. Crazy to say that China favoured local brands before.

Side note, modern South Korean nativism is derived from Japanese nativism. The Japanese nativism is the product of the right wing nationalists who were never removed from power after the Allied victory. Former SK President Park Chung Hee (in power for 20 years) was an enthusiastic participant in the Japanese colonial army and adapted the Japanese right wing politics for Korea.
Which is why I said many people here don’t understand China , so they just have opinions based on some erroneous news they receive . I didn’t mean they say Chinese favored local brands especially not back in the past when nobody even talked much about China as such just a decade ago. I think it was around 2018 when news media started regurgitating more of the China threat and how China is favoring local brands and how the CCP has some evil designs to evict all western companies from China etc etc. Many people bought this views and as Chinese companies moved up technology and improved their products and some foreign brands started losing some market share, some use this as an excuse to justify their views even more. lol without taking the time to think why this shift is happening .
one thing I believe everybody should be doing is travel more to different countries and spend some time in various cultures/places. There is no better teacher in life than travelling and experiences first hand different cultures and way of life. It broadens your life perspectives and views a lot. I can tell when I talk to people who haven’t travelled much, their views are often very narrow minded and one sided. This includes everybody in every country on earth from China to India to Vietnam to Japan to Africa to Latin America etc etc. The best way to make people learn is to give them the opportunity and standard of living to at enables them to travel the world. Else most people tend to be very naive /bias and narrow minded when they haven’t left much of their country before .

One really critical observation I have made, and something I find rather Ironic is that, based on cultural observations I have made in my time in China and Japan(including even Korea) China is more similar to the US regarding the hustle mindset, work ethic, cutthroat capitalistic competitive mindset, social interactions etc, in some ways I could argue that Chinese culture shares certain similarities with American culture that differ from the more regimented Japanese and Korean societies. Japan and Korea are seen more aligned with each other in terms of high-context, group-oriented behavior, but I admit all three was asan countries still differ significantly from the US in foundational social structure.
 

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Xiaomi's Chairman Lei Jun livestreamd a long-range endurance test of the new Xiaomi SU7 Pro from Beijing to Shanghai on 17th of April. The entire journey took 15 hours, covering 1313 kilometers, requiring only one charge along the way, with 3% battery remaining at the end. This means that under real-world highway conditions, with three people in the car, the range is approximately 650 kilometers.
 

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Xiaomi's Chairman Lei Jun livestreamd a long-range endurance test of the new Xiaomi SU7 Pro from Beijing to Shanghai on 17th of April. The entire journey took 15 hours, covering 1313 kilometers, requiring only one charge along the way, with 3% battery remaining at the end. This means that under real-world highway conditions, with three people in the car, the range is approximately 650 kilometers.
how many time it take to recharge? I see that Denza Z9GT 2026 takes 5 min to charge and runs 1300 km.
 
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