J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

MeiouHades

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What sort of information would you consider as "info" on how its "avionics stack up"?

Keeping in mind that avionics are a pretty broad term, and that specifications and relative performance for major mission systems for most air forces are kept very close to the chest (and of course even more so in the PLA and especially for a relatively contemporary fighter type) so I hope your expectations are calibrated appropriately when asking the question to begin with.
Frankly, any info I would consider as "info". Anything but the total radio silence we have right now.
 

Blitzo

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Frankly, any info I would consider as "info". Anything but the total radio silence we have right now.

There is a lot which can be deduced and pieced together from the past decade or so of J-20 family specific rumours as well as tracking the trend of other PRC projects, as well as application of common sense.

For example, would it be considered info for us to say that J-20 as a family (20, 20A, 20S) have AESA radars? Or that the vanilla J-20 had different, improved AESA models over its production batches? Or that between the last vanilla J-20 batch and J-20A/S that there likely were significant improvements in AESA capability (and the rest of its avionics suite) and that by now they are likely at GaN for their substrates by now, if not even earlier?

Etc etc.
 

douglaxd

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There is a lot which can be deduced and pieced together from the past decade or so of J-20 family specific rumours as well as tracking the trend of other PRC projects, as well as application of common sense.

For example, would it be considered info for us to say that J-20 as a family (20, 20A, 20S) have AESA radars? Or that the vanilla J-20 had different, improved AESA models over its production batches? Or that between the last vanilla J-20 batch and J-20A/S that there likely were significant improvements in AESA capability (and the rest of its avionics suite) and that by now they are likely at GaN for their substrates by now, if not even earlier?

Etc etc.
That is not even remotely "a lot" by any standards except PLA watching standards. While I personally believe the latest J-20As with WS-15 engines are the most dominant air superiority fighters at the moment, there is practically zero information on the avionics of the J-20 besides the fact that they probably have this and that and whatever.
 

Blitzo

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That is not even remotely "a lot" by any standards except PLA watching standards. While I personally believe the latest J-20As with WS-15 engines are the most dominant air superiority fighters at the moment, there is practically zero information on the avionics of the J-20 besides the fact that they probably have this and that and whatever.

Well that's why I asked MeiouHades what exactly they consider to be "info".

For PLA watching standards, we know a fair bit.


If one wants information directly from the horses mouth, then lol lmao.
 

MeiouHades

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It probably is true that at this point a J-20A/S with WS-15s is the deadliest air-to-air platforms on the planet right now. Just looking at the Chinese missile arsenal alone confirms that. The Raptors have AMRAAMs with a paltry 110 mile range and is a 30 year old platform that doesn't even have proper data-linking.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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It probably is true that at this point a J-20A/S with WS-15s is the deadliest air-to-air platforms on the planet right now. Just looking at the Chinese missile arsenal alone confirms that. The Raptors have AMRAAMs with a paltry 110 mile range and is a 30 year old platform that doesn't even have proper data-linking.

The PL-15 has already ended production (except the export and ARM variants) and is already getting replaced by the PL-16.
 

Blitzo

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It probably is true that at this point a J-20A/S with WS-15s is the deadliest air-to-air platforms on the planet right now. Just looking at the Chinese missile arsenal alone confirms that. The Raptors have AMRAAMs with a paltry 110 mile range and is a 30 year old platform that doesn't even have proper data-linking.

Please be a bit more contained about your questions, because I've tried to clarify what you meant in terms of quantifying "info" on how J-20 "avionics stack up" but now you've started a broader conversation which really should be focused back so the question can be answered and ended.
 
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