Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher

Nx4eu

Nx4eu

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bsdnf said:
One more thing, You can compare the PCL's 155mm ammo box to this using pedestrian as a reference height. If it's a regular 203mm gun, the shells can't be that small.
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Then what exactly is the box for? I don’t usually see such things on a crane. I’m not implying it’s a gun. But I am confused what the “ammo box” looking thing is exactly.

I was for sure it was a crane from first glance, but I don't seem to have an obvious explanation for what that weird storage box is exactly. A logical explanation for it other than "weird storage box" would help clear the air.
 
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lcloo

lcloo

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I don't know what this clamping thing in the box is called, "restrainer?" or "holder?", but they seem to be the same thing.

Also on the first photo, behind the driver's cabin and engine, is another cabin with personnel entry/exit door and a smaller service door. I don't think a mobile crane need this, but is common on self-propelled gun or rocket launchers.

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taxiya

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bsdnf said:
One more thing, You can compare the PCL's 155mm ammo box to this using pedestrian as a reference height. If it's a regular 203mm gun, the shells can't be that small.
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From what I can find, the maximum shell dimension of US railgun is 120mm (18kg) mortar, their gun is up to 90mm (21kg, 32MJ). Ma Weiming's paper once said that China realized shell of hundred kg, but he did not say the dimension. So I don't think we can use any conventional gun's dimension (155mm, 203mm) as a reference to guage the size of railgun. Railgun shell is a long dart with sabot, it could have high mass due to high density metal withut large size.
 
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taxiya

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Nx4eu said:
Crane or not crane. This vehicle could be related to these “crane or not cranes” spotted in satellite imagery in the past.View attachment 171885
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not likely, the front "legs" in the flatbed are located very forward, corresponding to the red lines in the satellite photo. Also in the satellite the front "legs" are extended outwards in a slanted angel. The "legs" in flatbed photo seems to be first extend then straight down.

This is only to say that the two viechles are different.
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Atomicfrog

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taxiya said:
not likely, the front "legs" in the flatbed are located very forward, corresponding to the red lines in the satellite photo. Also in the satellite the front "legs" are extended outwards in a slanted angel. The "legs" in flatbed photo seems to be first extend then straight down.

This is only to say that the two viechles are different.
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Look like there is a pair of legs just behind the pedestrian too, front leg going down vertical and the other just in front of pair of rear tires extending out and down.
 
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