I don't get it. What's in the circle?
2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]
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Yep, only air-breathing target set for now. (which is why Patriots defend the AN/TPY-2, and Iranian SRBMs are intercepted with SM-3s off the Turkish coast.)
Agreed here.
Last we heard, development of the ABM variant (Block-3) had been accelerated; with tests expected to begin in 2028.
The Siper IADS is an interesting system. The Block-1 missile is essentially a Hisar-RF fitted with an AShM booster, while the Block-2 is essentially an SM-2 Block IIIC without a booster. Over time, you can essentially produce the equivalent of the American sea-based ABM missile family from it. Only the missiles change; the battery elements remain the same, and the advantage of Siper's battery structure is that each element is dispersed rather than aggregated like other systems. Since its ALP‑300G search radar has received a large order under a separate contract, a larger area can be covered with fewer systems.
Probably, Block-3 will initially be against SRBMs only, which is currently more than sufficient when considering the regional threat and the fact that Turkey has no domestic ABM capability at the moment.
When you think about it, acting on that PAC-3 MSE proposal that passed through the Congress in 2019 could have not only filled an operational gap, but also supported the Siper-B3 through operational experience.
Politically, it’s not possible. Turkey has only just managed to get the Americans to listen to its case, and relations are only beginning to improve (enough to make the paranoid Israelis nervous)... Deploying them now would throw another decade of stable relations with the US out the window.
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Hmmm i can’t imagine Israel being able to last too much longer if the electrical and water grids have been targeted and disabled and food becomes more and more scarce, things like this will become increasingly more and more common. Also anyone can easily see instead of an untied front amongst the gulf states, we can easily see everything stating to become a free for all. I wonder if all this is worth it for Trump or Netanyahu, give that no matter what happens, both nations will be left worse off with nothing to show for it except a more limited weapon stockpile that will ultimately mean that any future adventure for these people is forever off the table
Given the increasingly broken state that US military is becoming right now, I wonder if they have the capability to do such a thing and not experience an epic failure, quite the opposite of the epic fury they are trying to sell
Ultimately would it make a difference at this point? People are already fighting. Whether or not Iran is condemned per UN makes no difference compared to who actually wins. The villain is the one who loses most of the time.
I'm pretty sure decision makers behind the scenes care more about what Intel others can provide for it's missiles rather than some political theater.
Edited some words. I think we better stop here before mods start banning people for derailing.
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Hi,
and as you have mentioned in your previous post, still get away with word (C)
thank you
At this point we need to learn to stop assuming leaders has the best interests of their countries in mind when they make their decisions. Recently I came to the realization that assumption is a very Chinese way of thinking and it is simply not true in the world 90% of the time.
For some interest groups there is no such thing as bad news as long as they get the news well before everyone else, which is very much the case when "They" have Trump in their pocket. The Jewish financial capital is going to use US like a husk until they squeeze out the last drop of interest and migrate to somewhere else.
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