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Samyan236

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In the image example I saw a few years back the reticle was smeared and blurry to the point it was unusable. Been trying to find the pic again but not having luck.

I agree, but ideally both would be available depending on mission and environment.
Holographic sights are honestly not very friendly to people with astigmatism. For example, if you have astigmatism, you basically can’t use the whole EOTech EXPS3 lineup. Instead of a crisp reticle, what you see through your glasses is just a big blurry red blob.

The same thing happens when you try to film a holographic sight with a phone or camera. The reticle usually looks blurry on video. That’s because holographic reticles are insanely bright, so they blow out really easily and get overexposed. On top of that, they’re not actually “always on.” They’re flickering at a super high frequency. If your camera’s shutter speed doesn’t sync up with that flicker, the reticle just turns into a smeared mess.

Another thing people don’t realize is how the reticle is projected. A holographic sight projects the reticle image out at optical infinity. So if the person filming focuses on the glass of the sight instead of the distant target that the reticle is aligned with, it’s going to look blurry again. The camera has to focus where the reticle is optically projected, not on the lens itself.
 

Clango

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Holographic sights are honestly not very friendly to people with astigmatism. For example, if you have astigmatism, you basically can’t use the whole EOTech EXPS3 lineup. Instead of a crisp reticle, what you see through your glasses is just a big blurry red blob.

The same thing happens when you try to film a holographic sight with a phone or camera. The reticle usually looks blurry on video. That’s because holographic reticles are insanely bright, so they blow out really easily and get overexposed. On top of that, they’re not actually “always on.” They’re flickering at a super high frequency. If your camera’s shutter speed doesn’t sync up with that flicker, the reticle just turns into a smeared mess.

Another thing people don’t realize is how the reticle is projected. A holographic sight projects the reticle image out at optical infinity. So if the person filming focuses on the glass of the sight instead of the distant target that the reticle is aligned with, it’s going to look blurry again. The camera has to focus where the reticle is optically projected, not on the lens itself.
Honestly I don't get the point of having a holographic sight because holographic sights are only good for one very specific thing, while you're eating all the insane downsides of holographics when you're not using NODS, and because of how holographic sights work they will always have garbage battery life. The EOTechs don't seem to use PWM but the UH-1 does, not sure about the QMQ171 though.
 
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Samyan236

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Honestly I don't get the point of having a holographic sight because holographic sights are only good for one very specific thing, while you're eating all the insane downsides of holographics when you're not using NODS, and because of how holographic sights work they will always have garbage battery life. The EOTechs don't seem to use PWM but the UH-1 does, not sure about the QMQ171 though.
I get what you’re saying. Holographics definitely have downsides, especially battery life. They’re never going to compete with something like the Aimpoint Micro T-2 on runtime. That’s just physics. But I don’t think they’re only good for NODS. With something like the EOTech EXPS3, the reticle isn’t just an LED dot on glass. It’s projected as a hologram, so as long as the reticle is in the window and the gun hasn’t moved, your POA stays consistent at zero distance. Off-axis performance is really forgiving.
Besides, Most Holographic sights use a 65 MOA ring + 1 MOA dot is also just fast. Close up it’s quick to pick up, and you still get a fine aiming point for distance. That’s not just a night vision thing.
Yeah, battery life sucks compared to LED dots. And some optics like the Vortex AMG UH-1 use PWM, which can show up on camera. But for normal daylight shooting, that’s kind of a non-issue. I wouldn’t say holographics are better. They just trade battery life for reticle behavior and window performance. Depends what you care about.
 

zlixOS

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I get what you’re saying. Holographics definitely have downsides, especially battery life. They’re never going to compete with something like the Aimpoint Micro T-2 on runtime. That’s just physics. But I don’t think they’re only good for NODS. With something like the EOTech EXPS3, the reticle isn’t just an LED dot on glass. It’s projected as a hologram, so as long as the reticle is in the window and the gun hasn’t moved, your POA stays consistent at zero distance. Off-axis performance is really forgiving.
Besides, Most Holographic sights use a 65 MOA ring + 1 MOA dot is also just fast. Close up it’s quick to pick up, and you still get a fine aiming point for distance. That’s not just a night vision thing.
Yeah, battery life sucks compared to LED dots. And some optics like the Vortex AMG UH-1 use PWM, which can show up on camera. But for normal daylight shooting, that’s kind of a non-issue. I wouldn’t say holographics are better. They just trade battery life for reticle behavior and window performance. Depends what you care about.
The actual *benefit* of a holographic for a force like the PLA is that it requires very little training. Since the dot is projected onto the target, there is no need to focus on one or the other.
 

Clango

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The actual *benefit* of a holographic for a force like the PLA is that it requires very little training. Since the dot is projected onto the target, there is no need to focus on one or the other.
Yes but going for something like an AEMS also does the exact same thing also with very minimal parallax but substantially better battery life
 

Lnk111229

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Yes but going for something like an AEMS also does the exact same thing also with very minimal parallax but substantially better battery life
I like the idea of better battery life. And it make me remember Generation kill tv series where the squad have battery shortage for NVGs, lol.
 

zlixOS

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Yes but going for something like an AEMS also does the exact same thing also with very minimal parallax but substantially better battery life
No, the AEMS is a red dot, not a holographic, meaning it's harder to aim with untrained. On a red dot like AEMS, if you focus on the guy you're about to shoot the reticle becomes out of focus. That doesn't happen with an Eotech, Vortex Huey, or I guess also that Zentinel holographic just released -- them being almost like a video game in how easy they are to use.

But we digress, this is the PLAGF news thread and not the infantry equipment thread.
 

F=XX Corsair

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A mobile anti-UAV defense system on a BAIC Brave Warrior chassis. MMW radar, VLS, and a drone landing pad. Not sure what are packed in the cells: anti-UAV drones or small SAMs?

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More pics on this BAIC Vehicle it's a militarized variant of their newest BJ81 model.

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QIUSIYU

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Holographic sights tend to have fuzzier/grainier reticles (especially at brighter settings), maybe that's what they're talking about.

I hope so! They should procure more QMK-152/171s.
The number of QMK171 sights issued far exceeds your expectations. However, in most promotional images, they are not mounted on the rifles because the rifles and sights are stored in separate warehouses.
 
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