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[Nevermore]

China can promote globally that partnering with China can secure advanced weapon systems comparable to those of the Pakistan Air Force. Many small nations' leadership and populations remain entrenched in the illusory dream of American hegemony and liberal democracy. Relying solely on passive, measured statements will struggle to shatter these nations' American dream. China might instead take proactive steps, actively promoting the security solutions and ideological frameworks it can offer.

 

[bsdnf]

My consistent view is that China should be the ones setting the questions, not the ones answering them.

If China follows suit and kidnaps figures from other non-cooperative countries, even drug traffickers, just because the US kidnapped Maduro, then it is essentially falling into the same narrative and will never gain the upper hand.

 

[vincent]

China can promote globally that partnering with China can secure advanced weapon systems comparable to those of the Pakistan Air Force. Many small nations' leadership and populations remain entrenched in the illusory dream of American hegemony and liberal democracy. Relying solely on passive, measured statements will struggle to shatter these nations' American dream. China might instead take proactive steps, actively promoting the security solutions and ideological frameworks it can offer.

You mean follow US example of arming the Afghanistan National Army with Western high tech weapons?

 

[Nevermore]

You mean follow US example of arming the Afghanistan National Army with Western high tech weapons?

What I mean is to encourage countries to arm themselves with China's advanced equipment. The use of such advanced equipment requires Chinese training and the establishment of a systematic military organization, which will lead to extensive cooperation. If the other party is unwilling to engage in deep cooperation, advanced weapons will not be sold. Afghanistan's problem lies in its political instability, conflicts with neighboring countries, and potential for radicalization. When exporting weapons, China must also consider the actual situation of the country and the geopolitical relationships with its neighbors. This concept of security assurance could be explored starting with some Southeast Asian countries.

 

[vincent]

What I mean is to encourage countries to arm themselves with China's advanced equipment. The use of such advanced equipment requires Chinese training and the establishment of a systematic military organization, which will lead to extensive cooperation. If the other party is unwilling to engage in deep cooperation, advanced weapons will not be sold. Afghanistan's problem lies in its political instability, conflicts with neighboring countries, and potential for radicalization. When exporting weapons, China must also consider the actual situation of the country and the geopolitical relationships with its neighbors. This concept of security assurance could be explored starting with some Southeast Asian countries.

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Under a deal discussed between a senior U.S. official and Mr. Maduro’s top aides, the Venezuelan strongman offered to open up all existing and future oil and gold projects to American companies, give preferential contracts to American businesses, reverse the flow of Venezuelan oil exports from China to the United States, and slash his country’s energy and mining contracts with Chinese, Iranian and Russian firms.

 

[bsdnf]

What I mean is to encourage countries to arm themselves with China's advanced equipment. The use of such advanced equipment requires Chinese training and the establishment of a systematic military organization, which will lead to extensive cooperation. If the other party is unwilling to engage in deep cooperation, advanced weapons will not be sold. Afghanistan's problem lies in its political instability, conflicts with neighboring countries, and potential for radicalization. When exporting weapons, China must also consider the actual situation of the country and the geopolitical relationships with its neighbors. This concept of security assurance could be explored starting with some Southeast Asian countries.

From my observation, many Southeast Asian countries are still playing a hedging game, similar to Middle Eastern countries buying weapons from both sides and cooperating economically with both, but without taking sides. Here's a joke: Burkina Faso's recent purchases of Chinese weapons have far exceeded those of many Southeast Asian countries.

Beacause as I stated, industries within a continent are often competitive. Although the inhabitants of some countries mired in hardship ironically prefer to rely on others to escape their predicament. Apart from this, no country will truly want to be dependent on another unless things are extremely dire, and China doesn't want to shoulder too much economic responsibility either.

 

[Phead128]

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Under a deal discussed between a senior U.S. official and Mr. Maduro’s top aides, the Venezuelan strongman offered to open up all existing and future oil and gold projects to American companies, give preferential contracts to American businesses, reverse the flow of Venezuelan oil exports from China to the United States, and slash his country’s energy and mining contracts with Chinese, Iranian and Russian firms.

Just like the old imperial Spain days of serving overseas European elite interests at the expense of the local population. Just replacing direct imperial rule with neo-colonialist multi-national corporations and co-opting local elites. If endemic corruption and historical colonial hierarchy (esp. racial castes mindset) hold Venezuelans back, there is little China can do to change this.

 

[enroger]

Just like the old imperial Spain days of serving overseas European elite interests at the expense of the local population. Just replacing direct imperial rule with neo-colonialist multi-national corporations and co-opting local elites. If endemic corruption and historical colonial hierarchy (esp. racial castes mindset) hold Venezuelans back, there is little China can do to change this.

In this case you can't blame Venezuelan for selling out their own sovereignty. Their government has proverbial gun point to their head and got their president kidnaped before they bend the knee to the Americans. This is already lightyears ahead of some other nation's elites voluntarily selling out their countries without the threat of violence.

I'd say the Venezuelan leftists tried their best to break away from American's yoke, they failed, end of story.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

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Under a deal discussed between a senior U.S. official and Mr. Maduro’s top aides, the Venezuelan strongman offered to open up all existing and future oil and gold projects to American companies, give preferential contracts to American businesses, reverse the flow of Venezuelan oil exports from China to the United States, and slash his country’s energy and mining contracts with Chinese, Iranian and Russian firms.

Truly becoming an American colony in the blink of an eye. Colonialism 2.0 is here, everyone - Same sh1t, different flavor!

What can I say? If the people themselves don't want to fight, then there is literally zero point for China to help them fight.

Beijing might as well just write off Venezuela as a lost cause from here on and focus exclusively on the Eurasian and African continents. There's totally nothing China can do for Latin America.

 

[plawolf]

China can promote globally that partnering with China can secure advanced weapon systems comparable to those of the Pakistan Air Force. Many small nations' leadership and populations remain entrenched in the illusory dream of American hegemony and liberal democracy. Relying solely on passive, measured statements will struggle to shatter these nations' American dream. China might instead take proactive steps, actively promoting the security solutions and ideological frameworks it can offer.

You are missing the whole way this game is played.

The overwhelming majority of countries on earth are just flip floppers geopolitically. They will prefer to stay independent, but will follow the prevailing currents of power and follow the dominant power if forced to choose a side.

But the thing is, these same countries are also all but irrelevant when it comes to the global great game irrespective of which side they pick. You think Venezuela under Maduro was going to send troops to fight for China in the event of a clash with America? Do you think Venezuela post-Maduro is going to send troops in support of America? And even if they did send some troops and stuff, how much would it actually matter? The same even applies to the EU and NATO. If China was already at war with America, can the EU contribute anything militarily that would actually make a real difference?

At the end of the day, when the chips are down and the missiles fly, it doesn’t matter who these little countries say they support, it’s which of the superpowers that can take and hold them that matters.

You are playing the game entirely wrong if you think force flipping these flip floppers individually is going to work or stick with some token application of military power. To make any gains really stick requires you to commit significant boots on the ground to hold those territories, even with genuine support of significant proportions if not outright majority of the local population. Why do you think the U.S. still maintains its military occupation forces in Europe, SK and Japan? Even in those heavily pro-US countries, there is a genuine risk that they will flip back to neutrality without the American military boot on their throats. Which goes back to the original point, you only own what you can hold.

China’s game is to win the economics contest such that all of the world will want to trade with China out of their own genuine self interests. It doesn’t need to force flip nations and peoples with military force because it can let economic gravity do the heavy lifting for it. It’s America who has lost the economic game who is now forced to resort to military force to coerce nations into acting against their own self interest.

China is also building up its own military might to not only be able to take the U.S. head on and win, but win so overwhelmingly that the US itself chickens out of the fight. That is the ultimate prize, to win world domination without needing to fight a world war.

Fighting America directly and winning a world war is actually the sorry consolation prize because of how much death and destruction that war will cost everyone.

China’s play might be more boring than the Hollywood fireworks show of America’s, but for the good of humanity, boring is best. The Romans didn’t use ‘may you live in interesting times’ as a curse for no reason. Anyone who has actually seen the brutal reality of war will never want to see that visited upon their own homelands, and that’s precisely what will happen to both China and America in the event of a direct full scale war, even if they managed to avoid going nuclear with such a fight by some miracle.