Trump 2.0 official thread

Michael90

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lol seriously I don’t understand why smaller countries and middle powers think they can actively go directly against the world sole superpower at the moment . What do you have to gain from doing so. The US military has no real counterweight at the moment , unlike during the 50s to 80s when the Soviet Union could counterbalance the US MILITARY GLOBALLY and could somehow protect her allies militarily . Today it’s not the case, so if you are small/middle country either ally with the US or remain neutral/friendly, since if push comes to shove there is nobody that can save or even help you from US power, this includes Iran and Cuba. So leaders should be more realistic instead of acting on emotions . Look at the bigger picture fo your country . There is no right or wrong in geo politics , only interests
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
lol seriously I don’t understand why smaller countries and middle powers think they can actively go directly against the world sole superpower at the moment . What do you have to gain from doing so. The US military has no real counterweight at the moment , unlike during the 50s to 80s when the Soviet Union could counterbalance the US MILITARY GLOBALLY and could somehow protect her allies militarily . Today it’s not the case, so if you are small/middle country either ally with the US or remain neutral/friendly, since if push comes to shove there is nobody that can save or even help you from US power, this includes Iran and Cuba. So leaders should be more realistic instead of acting on emotions . Look at the bigger picture fo your country . There is no right or wrong in geo politics , only interests
It's simple; some people would rather die than live life bowed. If no one stands up to tyranny, it wins. If some do, there may be casualities in the name of good but eventually, evil will fall. It's like asking why heros and rebels exist when it's so safe to live as a peasant on his knees.
 

vincent

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lol seriously I don’t understand why smaller countries and middle powers think they can actively go directly against the world sole superpower at the moment . What do you have to gain from doing so. The US military has no real counterweight at the moment , unlike during the 50s to 80s when the Soviet Union could counterbalance the US MILITARY GLOBALLY and could somehow protect her allies militarily . Today it’s not the case, so if you are small/middle country either ally with the US or remain neutral/friendly, since if push comes to shove there is nobody that can save or even help you from US power, this includes Iran and Cuba. So leaders should be more realistic instead of acting on emotions . Look at the bigger picture fo your country . There is no right or wrong in geo politics , only interests
You got your ass backwards. Those countries are resisting the Hegemon's attempt at robbing their wealth. In the past the US and its Western vassals are robbing many other countries and don't need to pay attention at the few that resisted them. However, the US is getting poorer and started to rob even its vassals ($550B from Japan, $350B from South Korea, $1350B from EU, $1T from Saudi Arabia, $1.4T from UAE). Every little bit looks good.
 

Michael90

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It's simple; some people would rather die than live life bowed. If no one stands up to tyranny, it wins. If some do, there may be casualities in the name of good but eventually, evil will fall. It's like asking why heros and rebels exist when it's so safe to live as a peasant on his knees.
But a leader of a country is elected to make the country better and give a better life for her people. You are not elected to stand up to a superpower or for pride/ego or whatever other silly righteous reason lol. A father of a family doesn’t care about those nonesense , what the average man cares about is taking care of his family and providing the best facilities and upbringing for his children and family, so that’s the main reason the average person on earth votes a leader for , not for pride or hero or whatever. lol do you think anybody on earth giving the choice between living in North Korea for example and their brother in the South which country will almost anybody(including North Koreans) choose ? lol

If your people are poorer because of your decisions as a leader then you have failed them full stop, doesn’t matter whether your decisions were righteous or not. At the end of the day you are elected to better the lives of your people and country . Looking at countries like Venezuela, Cuba, Iran etc they have failed even though they righteously stood up to the worlds sole superpower. Nobody really cares about that to be honest. lol Have you seen the protests going in Iran recently ? You think the average people there care about the ayatollahs standing up to the US and Israel? lol They don’t really give a shit about that nonesense. Their main concerns are their livelihoods which has deteriorated compared to the country’s potential and resources and even looking at their gulf countries peers . So even the regime in Tehran will fall at some point in time as I said before last year. It’s only a matter of time, this will be an internal affair not even a foreign one . That’s what happens when leadership fails the people.
The Chinese leadership is a standout on this point, they have been very pragmatic and even friendly and on good terms with the US/West during their growth phase. If they had stuck to the stupid hostile confrontational ideological stance during the Maoist era China wouldn’t have had the opportunity and space to grow to the point they are today, even with Chinas power today the party is still rather cautious and careful not to attract a conflict/issues . Reason I respect the CCP leadership ever since Deng took power. You have to know your strength and weakness and act accordingly . Don’t pick a fight which you know you can’t win , it’s stupidity not hero. Especially as a leader of a country where the destiny of millions of people relies on your decisions . other countries should learn from them.
 
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manqiangrexue

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But a leader of a country is elected to make the country better and give a better life for her people. You are not elected to stand up to a superpower or for pride/ego lol. A father of a family wouldn’t care about those nine sense , what the average man cares about is taking care of his family and providing the best facilities and upbringing for his children and family, so that’s the main reason the average person on earth votes a leader for , not for pride or hero or whatever. lol
If your people are poorer because of your decisions as a leader then you have failed , doesn’t matter whether your decisions were righteous or not. At the end of the day you are elected to better the lives of your people and country . Looking at that countries like Venezuela, Cuba, Iran etc have failed even though they righteously stood up to the worlds sole superpower. Nobody really cares about that to be honest. Have you seen the protests going in Oran recently ? You think the people care about the ayatollahs standing up to the US and Israel? They couldn’t give a shit about that. Their main concerns are their livelihoods which has deteriorated compared to the country’s potential and resources and even looking at their gulf countries peers . So even the regime in Tehran will fall at some point as I said before last year. It’s only a matter of time, this will be an internal affair not even foreign one . That’s what happens when leadership fails the peple.
China is the only country that came up with a system to counter the systemic design of, "Friends of the US get richer while enemies of the US get poorer." But that doesn't mean that all countries like to live on their knees. Like I said before, all you are saying is that you don't understand why there are heros and rebels in the world when it's so safe to kneel to tyranny.
 

iBBz

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lol seriously I don’t understand why smaller countries and middle powers think they can actively go directly against the world sole superpower at the moment . What do you have to gain from doing so. The US military has no real counterweight at the moment , unlike during the 50s to 80s when the Soviet Union could counterbalance the US MILITARY GLOBALLY and could somehow protect her allies militarily . Today it’s not the case, so if you are small/middle country either ally with the US or remain neutral/friendly, since if push comes to shove there is nobody that can save or even help you from US power, this includes Iran and Cuba. So leaders should be more realistic instead of acting on emotions . Look at the bigger picture fo your country . There is no right or wrong in geo politics , only interests
No one actively went against the US, not even one. All these countries being invaded and destroyed tried everything in their power to make deals and trade with the US and eventually ended up sanctioned, blockaded, and destroyed. No one pointed a missile or sent a jet to the US borders or even threatened their interests in any way, shape or form.
 

Michael90

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No one actively went against the US, not even one. All these countries being invaded and destroyed tried everything in their power to make deals and trade with the US and eventually ended up sanctioned, blockaded, and destroyed. No one pointed a missile or sent a jet to the US borders or even threatened their interests in any way, shape or form.
No, they have had an active anti American stance which they actively cultivated and publicly display openly. It’s not something they hide, so how can you say they are not against the US? They don’t need to send a missile or fighter jet towards the US/West simply because they don’t have the capabilities and means and they are too poor and weak vis a vis the US. Reason I said they are stupid for actively going against the US/West in their foreign policy, since it just attracts unwanted attention.
let me take a more realistic/personal example to show how stupid this sounds , Would you as a man be willing to go and start talking back and standing up to say Mike Tyson at his peak or say the Klishko/Antony Joshua etc today? I’m sure you won’t because you know they can easily beat you to death. So adopting a more friendly, diplomatic, conciliatory approach towards them will be the way you will act irrespective of how they behaved towards you right? that’s not being a coward , that’s being smart, realistic and pragmatic . Only a fool will willingly provoke a giant when he doesn’t have the capabilities to match that giant .
same way Chinas smaller neighbours would be big fools to go against/provoke China if they didn’t have the backing of a bigger giant like the US backing them (yes I’m looking at you Philippines, Taiwan. lol ).
 

generalmeng

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lol seriously I don’t understand why smaller countries and middle powers think they can actively go directly against the world sole superpower at the moment . What do you have to gain from doing so. The US military has no real counterweight at the moment , unlike during the 50s to 80s when the Soviet Union could counterbalance the US MILITARY GLOBALLY and could somehow protect her allies militarily . Today it’s not the case, so if you are small/middle country either ally with the US or remain neutral/friendly, since if push comes to shove there is nobody that can save or even help you from US power, this includes Iran and Cuba. So leaders should be more realistic instead of acting on emotions . Look at the bigger picture fo your country . There is no right or wrong in geo politics , only interests
USA have no control over Venezuela. The current ruling elites are still running the show. For all we know, maduro was sold out by his possies. USA don't give a rats ass about Venezuela. USA don't care about their oil as much. Would be nice to do business and make money. It's a pissing contest between the Venezuela old ruling elites VS new ruling elites.

Current usa interest, no foreign involvement in the americas. Maduro may have over step that, as a way to negotiate some relief from the sanction. Well his possies can achieve the same thing, sell out the head, they becomes the new ruler, they make money.

The old ruling elites in the USA, well they save face because they hanged the boggieman. They maintain expat support and the fake news. Maybe Venezuela regime will let them back in to do business, and China/Russia promise to back off, in exchange for oil and market access. Maybe China will even get contracts and land rights.

Either way, maduro is just a unfortunate loser in this game. His son still around, maybe he is too eager to take over?
 

iBBz

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No, they have had an active anti American stance which they actively cultivated and publicly display openly. It’s not something they hide, so how can you say they are not against the US? They don’t need to send a missile or fighter jet towards the US/West simply because they don’t have the capabilities and means and they are too poor and weak vis a vis the US. Reason I said they are stupid for actively going against the US/West in their foreign policy, since it just attracts unwanted attention.
let me take a more realistic/personal example to show how stupid this sounds , Would you as a man be willing to go and start talking back and standing up to say Mike Tyson at his peak or say the Klishko/Antony Joshua etc today? I’m sure you won’t because you know they can easily beat you to death. So adopting a more friendly, diplomatic, conciliatory approach towards them will be the way you will act irrespective of how they behaved towards you right? that’s not being a coward , that’s being smart, realistic and pragmatic . Only a fool will willingly provoke a giant when he doesn’t have the capabilities to match that giant .
same way Chinas smaller neighbours would be big fools to go against/provoke China if they didn’t have the backing of a bigger giant like the US backing them (yes I’m looking at you Philippines, Taiwan. lol ).
"Let me give you a realistic example". Proceeds to talk about boxers. Moving on.
 
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