US conflict in the Americas

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votran

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anyway why do you think US regime change venezuela , capture maduro so easy like a cakewalk

because they spend years fucking up venezuela economy with saction , degrade their economy , make them poor , make venezuela population suffer .

that why when they strike no fking one in venezuela have any mood to fight for the country or for the leader

what kind of result you expect gonna happen if US act like china let venezuela alone , free to trade , earn fking tons of money like taiwan for decades , population quality of life become so good ?
 

tankphobia

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Is it really a regime change if its just another wing of the chavismo taking full control?. For what is worth, the rest of government is pretty much intact.
If what Trump said in the conference is even mildly true, the entire Venezuelan government will be purged and replaced with pro-US puppets, if not they will bomb whoever gets put on that seat until they are pro US.
 

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According to CNN:
"President Donald Trump said the US will indefinitely
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and “rebuild the oil infrastructure” after capturing President Nicolas Maduro in a large-scale military operation today. He suggested the US would remain on-site until the nation is “back on track” but didn’t specify a timeline."

"President Donald Trump clarified that the US would put troops in Venezuela for the purposes of securing oil, vowing the money would go toward reimbursing Venezuelans and the United States for damages caused under Nicolás Maduro’s leadership."

"President Donald Trump offered some more details on who is in charge in Venezuela after the capture of President Nicolás Maduro, saying that top US officials including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth would work with a “team” to help run the country."

This is an interesting turn of events. Venezuela becomes a US protectorate. Trump took a page out of Teddie Roosevelt's book.
 
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votran

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So the VP sold Maduro out, as I expected the US would not make such a move without someone high up in the Venezuelan government who could complete the regime change.
people sold out their boss and their nation when life getting worst , population suffer , economy , life quality go down hill max speed . and the invader offer a better future , better treatment , better pay
nobody gonna do if their nation still rich as fk and having a good quality of life for population like taiwan
 

bsdnf

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anyway why do you think US regime change venezuela , capture maduro so easy like a cakewalk

because they spend years fucking up venezuela economy with saction , degrade their economy , make them poor , make venezuela population suffer .

that why when they strike no fking one in venezuela have any mood to fight for the country or for the leader

what kind of result you expect gonna happen if US act like china let venezuela alone , free to trade , earn fking tons of money like taiwan for decades , population quality of life become so good ?
free trade of what? Do you think Trump kidnapped Maduro to help Venezuelan civilians to share in the oil profits? Multinational oil giants will be laughing all the way to the bank.
 

Eventine

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anyway why do you think US regime change venezuela , capture maduro so easy like a cakewalk

because they spend years fucking up venezuela economy with saction , degrade their economy , make them poor , make venezuela population suffer .

that why when they strike no fking one in venezuela have any mood to fight for the country or for the leader

what kind of result you expect gonna happen if US act like china let venezuela alone , free to trade , earn fking tons of money like taiwan for decades , population quality of life become so good ?
Can we stop this silly line of argument?

China cannot sanction Taiwan, not because it is not courageous, but because it would be practically useless, as the West and its allies can simply fill in the gap. The US + EU + Japan + South Korea is >50% of the global economy. Until that changes, sanctions are useless.

The first step to ending US hegemony has always been economic in nature. There are incremental and significant moves towards this happening, if you've been following the news and this forum - clear signs the US is no longer the economic super power it once was.

But of course, the US isn't stupid and unaware, contrary to some people's expectations, and more importantly, its allies are too deeply entrenched in the US global system to pull out, which means the US still has time and competence on its side. So it's chosen to strike back and intimidate the rest of the world into not abandoning the dollar and the US financial markets - the two pillars of the US's economic super power.

These are, however, simply delaying tactics. The real contest is in the domain of technology and specifically AI. If the US can reach AGI before the rest of the world, then it can ensure its hegemony for centuries to come. If it can't, then it's not going to change the general trajectory of the US economy - Americans are just too decadent, Trump is trying to change that, but he won't succeed because once decadence has set into a culture, it can't really be changed without revolution.
 
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