US conflict in the Americas

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tankphobia

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I wonder what the China Maduro meeting just before his capture was about. I am not going to lie, but I never imagined the Venezuelans for fold so easily. Can you imagine letting your top guy get kidnapped like this?

You really start to appreciate how strong the Palastanians are. I believe East or South Asians wouldn't have given up so easily.
It starts with ideology, Palestine has a strong ideological backbone (retaking their homeland) to go with the conviction in their actions. The USSR was at its peak cohesion when everyone in the establishment believed in the vision. When all you have is slogans, with a cadre of people in charge who are kept in line through corruption, you can see why the Domino's fell so quickly.

All the weapons in the world wouldn't have stopped this if the ones in charge gets paid more by letting it happen.
 

Atomicfrog

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Now the biggest danger in Venezuela and in Latin America in general could be the prospect of the return of guerrilla warfare in the region couple with an increase of the narco situation to sustain that type of war.
Its exactly the scenario that the US want, so it can put a military base in Caracas and bomb the hell out of anything that moves in Venezuela for years to protect Venezuela new democracy... while pumping oil out free of charges.
 

discspinner

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From the 1st island chain, to the 2nd island chain, to the Indo Pacific strategy, and now to Venezuela. The pattern is clear. Look at the map. Caracas is literally on the coast. Remember the 2015 military parade. Venezuela sent a company of soldiers for training, only a handful qualified for the parade.
Nothing surprising about the military outcome. US special forces most experienced and capable in the world except maybe Israeli. More interested in the reaction in oil prices (lower?), gold, US dollar, and bond yields. US may be trying to cow other Latin American countries into siding with it at the UN, maintaining dollar hegemony, etc.
 

tokenanalyst

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Its exactly the scenario that the US want, so it can put a military base in Caracas and bomb the hell out of anything that moves in Venezuela for years to protect Venezuela new democracy... while pumping oil out free of charges.
But that could trap the US military in a perpetual conflict in the region. The biggest one since the cold war or even bigger.
 

sheogorath

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The PRC need to start build-up and break down the economy of the enemies before this escalated further. The best way to show the power is to have real, hard power ready to be used, because soft power is only applicable if you have hard power that can supplement the soft power. Soft power alone by itself, on the other hand, is useless without hard power being behind it.

As long as China keeps thinking peaceful coexistence with the West is possible and all they have to do is to wait for Westoids to elect someone rational(spoiler alert: as conditions in the west decline, things will get more irrational) and trusting international institutions founded to favor the west, that won't change
 

RedBaron

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BREAKING: Donald Trump shared an image depicting Nicolás Maduro aboard the USS Iwo Jima.

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sutton999

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Why does China *need* to threaten the US in Latam? You know it can do without Venezuelan oil, or even Brazilian crops, right? And it would much prefer to see limited US military resources deployed to SA, and even rather they withdrew everything from Asia to plunder that continent to their hearts' content? In fact that would precisely be about as ideal of a multipolar outcome as China is in all likelihood hoping for.

And to add to that, the Trumpian retreat should be encouraged, not deterred. While yes, words alone mean little and the bulk of their presence remains in Asia, if China devoted massive resources to contesting & frustrating their pivot to the Americas now it would merely serve to show the US that pivoting elsewhere to concede to China is not an option & they have no choice but to stay the course in Asia at any cost.
US won't retreat at all, wishful thinking.
 
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