PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems
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It is the HQ13 apparently a new SHORAD missile system first mounted on the CLT181A chassis (Mengshi III)
image 2 from a CCTV7 vid
The original X.com post is from a Japanese author () that had this information:
The HQ-13 SHORAD operated by the PLA 72nd Group Army Air Defense Brigade. Based on the Mengshi armored vehicle, a single vehicle carries eight SAMs with a range of approximately 20km, serving as a field air defense vehicle. Variants include a radar vehicle and a 35mm autocannon type. Export designation FB-10A. Due to changes in the anticipated combat environment, the HQ-13 series is gradually becoming mainstream, replacing the mass-produced Type 625. The vehicle itself was confirmed by a test unit two years ago.
Same pictures and systems have already been discussed in detail here; check previous pages.
ahhh, when I searched for HQ13, nothing in the search came up. The way you posted it comes across is in bad form.
Thanks for the pointing this out and @by78 post on it #1579. The images are from an exercise and @TheWanderWit posted on the next post that it had be seen again. There was some testing imagery and then these two sets of posts. Great to show imagery, the poster on X had more data on the exercise where the system was fired. And they posted the video from CCTV7.
Searching for HQ13 or HQ-13 did not come up with the post nor the discussion. Imagery is great! but without text or tags to mark the images, search to see if it is posted before is not great. So in essence I should go through all of the posts to see if anyone has posted the images before. Sorry for sounding snarky, but posting "Same pictures and systems have already been discussed in detail here; check previous pages." is not really helpful.
Again thank you for pointing this out.
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Sorry, I replied to the wrong post. I was referring to your second post with the exact same images which were discussed just three pages back. Didn't mean to send you on a wild goose chase.
PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems
I mean, I agree about how pathetic Gulf states are but part of it is just these weapons are intended to be expended quickly so Chinese weapons are the obvious choice being much cheaper. Sudan has been using Chinese weapons for decades. It’s natural to seek out more Chinese weapons...
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HQ-20 serving as mid-range ABM is questionable. Lowest tier of ABM is the terminal phase interceptor and if they are putting so many resources to develop a mid-range (basically point defense against ballistic missiles) ABM, under the DN-3/SC-19, HQ-29/26, HQ-19, HQ-9C and HQ-9B (which has limited ABM itself), they wouldn't need to produce so many mobile units.
Unless of course the HQ-20 is directed towards SRBMs and optimised as mid-range interceptor against HGV/HCM and lower energy (shorter range) ballistic missiles. Then it makes sense to make it a highly mobile platform with so many missiles carried in a battalion.
I think HQ-20 is simply a higher performing HQ-16, offering similar range but in a much smaller and faster package. This allows it to be more mobile and vehicles can carry more. Updated support systems. This means it is a generalist but uses hit to kill with a smaller warhead. Useful against fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, drones and cruise missiles with limited ABM as secondary role, in contrast to something like HQ-9C which would be primarily for ABM.
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Do you happen to have a link to more images like these? With all the sams shown at the parade taken by the same photographer from the same angle?
I had the same question since the parade. Simplest explanation is that PLAAF just goes for 3-tier structures everywhere it can. It's incomplete, but sometimes it's right to admit we don't know more, and remember we're ultimately observers.
We may understand more when we'll see full fire unit, but for now I guess let's be content with what we have.
HQ-20 is clearly both shorter and slimmer than HQ-9C. HQ-20 is likely in the 70-100 km range while HQ-9C would be 160-200 km
Unfortunately not, but they look to be a screenshot from a Bilibili video.
Isn't FK-3/B the export designation of HQ-22. the FK-3B missile itself shares similarities with the HQ-20 but it's smaller especially in terms of length.
size wise using Russian missiles as a scale:
FK-3B ≈ 9M100E
HQ-11 ≈ 9M96E
HQ-20 ≈ 9M96E2
