PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems

[supersnoop]

I mean, I agree about how pathetic Gulf states are but part of it is just these weapons are intended to be expended quickly so Chinese weapons are the obvious choice being much cheaper.

Sudan has been using Chinese weapons for decades. It’s natural to seek out more Chinese weapons.

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In any case, UAE is funnelling all kinds of equipment not just Chinese.

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[YUSHIGUO]

Air defense missile based on amphibious armored vehicle

 

[Wrought]

Air defense missile based on amphibious armored vehicleView attachment 164205View attachment 164206

Looks like HQ-13, mounted on a Type 05 chassis instead of the usual Mengshi.

 

[Totoro]

But unlike the mengshi variant, which has the radar on a separate vehicle, here everything is on the same vehicle. Plus I've never seen the radar on such a high mast, when used on an integrated launcher/sensor vehicle.

 

[The Observer]

But unlike the mengshi variant, which has the radar on a separate vehicle, here everything is on the same vehicle. Plus I've never seen the radar on such a high mast, when used on an integrated launcher/sensor vehicle.

Looking at the mast length when folded, I think it's a telescoping mast. And considering HQ-13 presumably can only fire when stationary, I'd say the extra height & surveillance LOS it gives is a good enough trade-off.

If I'm western analyst, I'd say just use Crotale NG as an approximation in capability. Though the difference in guidance method does impact countermeasure choice.

 

[Gloire_bb]

I am not sure it's same system on two photos in the first place. Details differ.

 

[Totoro]

I dunno, to me what little details can even be discerned from two fairly blurry images and models of mengshi based fb10a battery - nothing precludes the two from using the same missile and same/modified radar.

Missile seems to be 2.8 m long and 18 cm wide at the rocket motor segment. Those are pretty decent figures. Crotale's VT1 missile is 2.35 m long and 17 cm wide.
So when the fb10a maker markets the missile as being able to reach 17-18 km (two different brochures exist) and 7.5 to 8 km in altitude - one can sort of believe it. The missile looks small but it is actually not, it's just tightly packed and also packs a punch.
IR guidance is the right choice for the envelope given. And probably for the most typical target types to be encountered.

 

[bsdnf]

HQ-20

 

[bsdnf]

I am not sure it's same system on two photos in the first place. Details differ.

It might be similar to the 625, only the lead vehicle has a big search radar

 

[Totoro]

Here is the thin hq9c missile, for comparison. Various differneces are apparent. Hq20 missile isnt as tapered, has differently shaped rear fins. And seems to feature different fuze sensors.