Wouldn't civilian certification take way longer than an engine exclusively for domestic military usage? How long did it take the WS-20 to go from the first prototype to certification and operation? I believe a MPA-derivative of a WS-20 should take less time than that. If anything the biggest bottleneck at this point for China's civil aeroengine side, in terms of time frame, is just gonna be certification. China has already proven it can now pump out great engines relatively quickly
PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread
- Thread starter Sczepan
- Start date
WS-20 took solid 10 years(2013-2023) from first flight to serial production.. but this was the first ever high bypass Turbofan Engine project and back then China's had backward gas turbine industry.. WS-10/WS-20 transformed China's gas turbine industry and build a solid foundation.
at Zhuhai air show in 2022, AECC showcase the civilian version of WS-20 called AEP-1300 with composite carbon wide chord fan blades.
WS-20 family is now in full scale production.. what i have heard from my source, they are planning to produce WS-20 engine in large numbers due to huge demand.
so if PLAAF really need P-8 Poseidon then XAC can very well purse the project with new airframe and obviously Engines are WS-20/AEP-1300. you don't even need C919/CJ-1000.
If PLAN wants a jet-powered MPA then Kawasaki P1 is a much better model to work from than a narrow-body airliner like B737 or C919. The only advantage of P8 is logistical/training i.e. can use civilian infrastructure and leverage huge installed B737 base worldwide, but that would not apply to PLAN.
you mean to build airframe like Kawasaki P1 or to contact with KAC ?? the same thing i m saying. XAC can very well produce new airframe. COMAC doesn't need to involve.
It's vanishingly unlikely that either PLAN/AVIC or Kawasaki would wish to enter into any sort of MPA co-production arrangement. So obviously the former. P1's engines are 13klbf, surely China can produce a HBP turbofan in that range?
The P1's engine has a BPR of 8:1. It is fairly advanced.
Closest engine in that power level China could buy off the shelf would be the Russian PD-8 for the Be-200. Whenever that is available. It was already funded. But that has way worse BPR because they made it to fit under the SSJ's wing.
Ideally you would use the CJ-500. But has development for it even started yet? Or is it just a roadmap item?
Closest engine in that power level China could buy off the shelf would be the Russian PD-8 for the Be-200. Whenever that is available. It was already funded. But that has way worse BPR because they made it to fit under the SSJ's wing.
Ideally you would use the CJ-500. But has development for it even started yet? Or is it just a roadmap item?
OK but Sino-P1 engine doesn't need to be SotA for military applications.