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[CMP]

Have you ever heard of parking garages? You know, those concrete structures that are dedicated to parked cars? Some are stand alone buildings, and some are located underground as part of office buildings.

lucretius outed himself as likely living in bumfuckville suburbs since he seems unfamiliar with the existence of underground or above ground multistory parking structures which are extremely common in even small cities of 500k population and up.

 

[Sinnavuuty]

This post is not intended to be used as a basis for verifying the composition of the PLAAF fighter fleet, but simply to record the changes that the TMB 2025 recorded in relation to the TMB 2024:

The Military Balance 2024 -


The Military Balance 2025 -


TMB 2024 -

FIGHTER
1 bde with J-7 Fishcan
7 bde with J-7E Fishcan
4 bde with J-7G Fishcan
1 bde with J-8F/H Finback
1 bde with J-11A/Su-27UBK Flanker
4 bde with J-11A/J-11B/Su-27UBK Flanker
2 bde with J-11B/BS Flanker L

FIGHTER/GROUND ATTACK
1 bde with J-8F Finback; JH-7A Flounder
5 bde with J-10A/S Firebird
1 bde with J-10A/S Firebird; Su-30MK2 Flanker G
1 bde with J-10B/S Firebird
6 bde with J-10C/S Firebird
1 bde with J-11B/BS Flanker L; JH-7A Flounder
7 bde with J-16 Flanker N 1 bde with J-16 Flanker N; Su-30MKK Flanker G; Su-35 Flanker M
5 bde with J-20A
2 bde with Su-30MKK Flanker G

GROUND ATTACK
5 bde with JH-7A Flounder

FTR 466: 50 J-7 Fishcan; 119 J-7E Fishcan; 120 J-7G Fishcan; 50 J-8F/H Finback; 95 J-11; 32 Su-27UBK Flanker
FGA 1,339+: 236 J-10A Firebird A; 55 J-10B Firebird; 220 J-10C Firebird C; 77 J-10S Firebird; 150 J-11B/BS Flanker L; ε280 J-16 Flanker N; 200+ J-20A; 24 Su-30MK2 Flanker G; 73 Su-30MKK Flanker G; 24 Su-35 Flanker M
ATK 200 JH-7A Flounder

TMB 2025 -

FIGHTER
1 bde with J-7 Fishcan
5 bde with J-7E/G Fishcan
1 bde with J-11A/Su-27UBK Flanker
3 bde with J-11A/J-11B/Su-27UBK Flanker
2 bde with J-11B/BG/BS Flanker L

FIGHTER/GROUND ATTACK
1 bde with J-8F Finback; JH-7A Flounder
5 bde with J-10A/S Firebird
1 bde with J-10A/S Firebird; Su-30MK2/MKK Flanker G
1 bde with J-10B/S Firebird
7 bde with J-10C/S Firebird
1 bde with J-11B/BG/BS Flanker L; JH-7A Flounder
11 bde with J-16 Flanker N
1 bde with J-16 Flanker N; Su-30MKK Flanker G; Su-35 Flanker M
8 bde with J-20A
1 bde with Su-30MKK Flanker G

GROUND ATTACK
5 bde with JH-7A Flounder

FTR 456: 50 J-7 Fishcan; 119 J-7E Fishcan; 120 J-7G Fishcan; 40 J-8F/H Finback; 95 J-11; 32 Su-27UBK Flanker
FGA 1,409: 236 J-10A Firebird A; 55 J-10B Firebird; 240 J-10C Firebird C; 77 J-10S Firebird; 110 J-11B/BS Flanker L; 40 J-11BG Flanker; 300 J-16 Flanker N; 230+ J-20A; 24 Su-30MK2 Flanker G; 73 Su-30MKK Flanker G; 24 Su-35 Flanker M
ATK 200 JH-7A Flounder

 

[tamsen_ikard]

This post is not intended to be used as a basis for verifying the composition of the PLAAF fighter fleet, but simply to record the changes that the TMB 2025 recorded in relation to the TMB 2024:

The Military Balance 2024 -
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TMB 2024 -

TMB 2025 -

Nice for you to provide this. I was looking for the free pdf of IISS 2025 but its still not availble online.

According to this, PLA still operates 289 J-7 and only increased modern fighter count by +20 J-10c, +20 J-16, +30 J-20. Seems extremely conservative when we know China produces around 40 J-16 per year and atleast 70-80 J-20s per year. One explanation could be that there is probably a lag of 2-3 years before a fighter jet count shows up on IISS.

 

[Maikeru]

That looks absurdly out of date.

 

[lucretius]

lucretius outed himself as likely living in bumfuckville suburbs since he seems unfamiliar with the existence of underground or above ground multistory parking structures which are extremely common in even small cities of 500k population and up.

Ignoring the childishness for a moment, not practical for a place with that many employee's.

Look at boeing plant for example

Of course it could just be a poor representation of the final layout.

 

[PeoplesPoster]

Where do all the employees park? Distinct lack of parking spaces in those drawings.

besides all the other points brought up by others, if this plant is at all similar to other Chinese manufacturing facilities they will have on site dormitories for the line workers as well as onsite transportation in the form of buses etc.

 

[lucretius]

besides all the other points brought up by others, if this plant is at all similar to other Chinese manufacturing facilities they will have on site dormitories for the line workers as well as onsite transportation in the form of buses etc.

This makes more sense, thank you for the informed reply.

 

[CMP]

Ignoring the childishness for a moment, not practical for a place with that many employee's.

Look at boeing plant for example

Of course it could just be a poor representation of the final layout.

A SINGLE underground parking lot can have a capacity of 2,400 parking spaces just FYI.

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I am sure China can do an order of magnitude better than Toronto.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Some truck-mounted aircraft mockup models under scaffolding, seen on satellite imagery (dated 12 June 2025) at the military parade training base outside Beijing. Are those mockup models of the J-36 and J-XDS for the September 3rd parade? The silhouettes look similar.

Posted by @foolsball and @type36512 on Twitter.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Some aircraft mockup models wrapped under scaffolding mounted on trucks, seen on satellite imagery at the military parade training base outside of Beijing. Are those mockup models of the J-36 and J-XDS for the September 3rd parade? The silhouettes look similar.

Posted by @foolsball and @type36512 on Twitter.

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They are way too small…