India is among the least competent of bureaucratic states in the world and their top political level is completely captured by their billionaire class. They can't even build roads, trains, and bridges properly. Most of their population consumes almost nothing and maybe about 5-10% of their population consumes something akin to an Indian middle class. No matter what metric you use, they're nowhere near your magical "snowball" moment, and frankly, I don't see them reaching such a point before AI replaces most of the outsourced white collar work to India. Their manufacturing share of their economy is not steadily increasing, but in fact steadily decreasing. And what little their tiny middle class does consume, it is mostly Chinese in origin or in majority (even totality) of complex industrial inputs. India's upper class does most of the consuming, and they're doing so mostly in the form of foreign luxury goods.
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Wake me up when India can make quality bullets and stop importing foreign rifles.
The problem with the Tejas is that it's supposed to be an inexpensive Mig-21 replacement but India has no real use for planes like the Mig-21 anymore. Short legs, low payload, weak radar, and poor BVR capabilities makes it a plane suited for countries that don't actually need fighters, but it'll get slaughtered by anything that carries a PL-12 or better. And so India ended with a plane that they can't build, that can't perform the missions that India wants to perform, and can't be killed because of politics.
No one says they're not improving. They're just improving much more slowly than China is trailblazing. In that sense, the gap is growing rapidly.
10 years worth of GE engines for tejas and future amca, also the apaches that have been stuck for a while now.
Who knows, India reported 6% gdp growth is self reported not independently verified, Numerous economists both in india and elsewhere have brought attention to this for years, some estimate that actual growth in modi years has been avg of 2-3%.
India's manufacturing % per the gdp has DECREASED past 10+ years instead of increasing during the years they got the most investment into the country.
Look at how Vietnam and India are at the same point in 2010, and look at them now
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Sure india's gdp over all grew so by raw numbers manufacturing did increase(It increased in country like pakistan too, both of them are at same 13-14% numbers) but the major investment didnt go into this at all, not from outside or local billionaires (which india has more than japan now, 248 vs 40)
Even india's Apple plants are only FATP zones aka final assembly, test and pack. They import everything from China (money goes back to China, leaves india, increases its trade deficit with china too) and it only assembles to get the 'made in india' title.
Their Net FDI is also collapsing
Because indian billionaires are taking their money and investing in western countries stocks and companies for 'higher growth/returns'
Honestly India's rival isnt China, its Vietnam when it comes to manufacturing/economy.
They are bringing their people out of poverty too much faster in much shorter time while 1 bn people are still under it in india.
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They're treating the entire value of exported goods as part of their manufacturing without accounting for the value of imported components from China that go into those goods. Subtract that and they're a manufacturing minnow.
In India if I make a 1 mile long road but it's 4 lanes, that now counts as 4 miles long. It's a real thing, look it up.
People say China fakes data while giving India a free pass when it's doing it openly is laughable.