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sf7pakistan

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So much on "we get J-35A soon, we'll get them before mid-August and with PL-17"!!! :p


You have to be cautious with him because a lot of the time he's speaking in a personal capacity without ever disclosing that he is. He's previously also stated that after what India did with IWT, Pakistan considers the Simla Agreement void after which the Foreign Office had to come out and say that this wasn't the case. The Government has tweeted before that they're coming and now that whole thread has been deleted, so let's see what happens.
 

Deino

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You have to be cautious with him because a lot of the time he's speaking in a personal capacity without ever disclosing that he is. He's previously also stated that after what India did with IWT, Pakistan considers the Simla Agreement void after which the Foreign Office had to come out and say that this wasn't the case. The Government has tweeted before that they're coming and now that whole thread has been deleted, so let's see what happens.

So you want to say, the official statement of minister is wrong, but some funny fan-boy's claims are correct or a post that has been deleted from an official post? The one that by the way only claimed Pakistan GOT AN OFFER, and never said they will come or even when they will come?
 

sf7pakistan

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So you want to say, the official statement of minister is wrong, but some funny fan-boy's claims are correct or a post that has been deleted from an official post? The one that by the way only claimed Pakistan GOT AN OFFER, and never said they will come or even when they will come?
All I'm saying is that the minister isn't the guy you think he is, he's on the job because he's been with the party for decades and he has a history of saying stuff on his own and not in an official capacity. He's previously mishandled the communication on the aftermath of the 6/7 May ops by PAF and he's unilaterally stated that the Simla Agreement was void. In any proper political establishment he'd been booted by now but regardless of the fact that he holds the job or not, it is obvious that he is at times speaking in a personal capacity and we have no idea when he is doing so.

So far we have that deleted tweet but also a statement by the air chief back in 2024 that
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, and those are to me a lot more credible than the statements by the defence minister. And from what I've been able to gather from sources is that one of the major reasons to induct the J-10s was to pave the way for a 5th gen acquisition from China.
 

AlexYe

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If that's the case then maybe the new planes they were referring to might be the rumored EW planes
Could be, Could the helicopter deal that we never got an update on? idk how heli's get delivered...
So much on "we get J-35A soon, we'll get them before mid-August and with PL-17"!!! :p

If this was PAF spox rather Khwaja Asif i would believe it, but he isnt really involved any of these things due to the 'hybrid' Military-Civil government system in Pakistan.
So far we have that deleted tweet but also a statement by the air chief back in 2024
Yep here is the official PAF statement from last year,
Still I dont expect any for a year +
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sf7pakistan

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Could be, Could the helicopter deal that we never got an update on? idk how heli's get delivered...

If this was PAF spox rather Khwaja Asif i would believe it, but he isnt really involved any of these things due to the 'hybrid' Military-Civil government system in Pakistan.

Yep here is the official PAF statement from last year,
Still I dont expect any for a year +
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IIRC he said this at Murid at the induction ceremony of Turkish UAVs and yeah it's pretty much certain that they'd be coming by this time next year at the earliest.
 

defenceman

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Hi,
this visit is for the permission of USA for older generation F16 upgrades fro Turkey, beside
the 18 BLK52 rest of the F16 need to be upgraded even via Turkish way PAF need USA permission
to go through these upgrades, then if USA convinced PAF might request for better version of long range
missiles as they can convince USA J10 already using long range missiles, if not may be to let them integrate
Turkish missiles in coming years
thank you
 

Black Wolf

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Hi,
this visit is for the permission of USA for older generation F16 upgrades fro Turkey, beside
the 18 BLK52 rest of the F16 need to be upgraded even via Turkish way PAF need USA permission
to go through these upgrades, then if USA convinced PAF might request for better version of long range
missiles as they can convince USA J10 already using long range missiles, if not may be to let them integrate
Turkish missiles in coming years
thank you

Seems the primary objective of this visit appears to be securing U.S. approval for a full MLU of the entire F-16 fleet including all blocks beyond the current 18 Block 52s to the “V” standard (based on various past statements and indications from PAF). This configuration is seen as critical for ensuring long-term viability, enhanced capability, and continued interoperability of the platform.

Another important aspect seems to be efforts to revive the transfer of the remaining 14 F-16s that were held back due to past U.S. sanctions. These aircraft, once intended for delivery, remain a key part of PAF’s original planning and force structure.

There also seems to be interest in acquiring 12 Iraqi Block 52 F-16s through a barter arrangement involving 16 JF-17 Block III aircraft, a deal to which the Iraqi side has reportedly shown a favorable stance. This could serve as a practical way to expand the fleet without a major financial outlay.

From what can be inferred, PAF is likely focused solely on the "V" standard MLU and may not be inclined to pursue any downgraded or partial upgrade packages. If the “V” path does not move forward, it is quite possible that older F-16s will start being phased out, with no further investment made into limited or interim upgrade options. In that scenario, emphasis would likely shift toward more modern or indigenous platforms going forward.

If all of the above objectives are achieved, the PAF F-16 fleet would not only be significantly modernized but could also reach a strength of approximately 100 aircraft, making it a highly potent and strategically valuable force for years to come.
 
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AlexYe

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Hi,
this visit is for the permission of USA for older generation F16 upgrades fro Turkey, beside
the 18 BLK52 rest of the F16 need to be upgraded even via Turkish way PAF need USA permission
to go through these upgrades, then if USA convinced PAF might request for better version of long range
missiles as they can convince USA J10 already using long range missiles, if not may be to let them integrate
Turkish missiles in coming years
thank you
Yeah this is Def F16's related, trump did approve like $300 mil in feb related to Pakistan's f16 thing too, They have lots of older variants that they could/should upgrade if given the chance.
14 F-16s that were held back due to past U.S. sanctions
Wait there are STILL SOME LEFT??? I thought they got them all. Man US is such flipflopper.
They dont even give the money back for it either, rather get the money back and throw it to get some more J10's instead
 
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