2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

sequ

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It might be the real beginning of the end for the IR. It's very vulnerable now and open to civilian unrest and separatist tendencies.

Yeah, they might be done for. It's akin to having a gun aimed at your opponents head. They'll have to make concessions amounting to surrender.

 

Aegrotare

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When do you guys think the US will join in? There is not really a reason for the US to hold back the Bunker Busters for the Nuke sites when Israel kills of the Iranian airdefence. I dont know if the B2s are still in the Indian Ocean but now would be a great moment to finish the job.
 

AlexYe

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One thing I question in this thread is that with complete air superiority, I don't see why they cannot also target their nuclear facilities too. They can certainly be obliterated.

I think Israeli military goals are likely:

1. De-militarisation — including the complete destruction of all nuclear facilities.

2. To trigger political instability and overthrow the regime. As we have seen with calls for uprisings and statements isolating the regime from the people.

They may not need any "head choppers" but instead they will need the pro-western monarchists to kick up some protests, get people on board, and try overthrow the regime. So look out for any anti-regime monarchist protests happening or propaganda of that sort.
The nuclear targets were never a real threat, thats just what to sell to the public.
Since the 90's they have been saying that 'Iran is close' meanwhile iran didnt want nukes, it wanted security guaranty its why they did the obama deal too, and its why reformists/liberal iran leadership got duped thinking the recent talks were 'sincere'

All the messaging from Israel is about regime change, Netanyahu's video about 'Iran people rising up' same from us-politicians, Its yet another West backed Iranian coup/regime change.
So Pakistan is indeed next in line. This will enable US and allies to do pincher move against China should Pakistan fall or change allegiance
Definitely Mossad linked MEMRI org posted 'Baloch studies' map, basically a balock nation separated from both Pakistan and Iran.
I don't think their next target would be Pakistan. It's most likely turkey since they are modernizing military and will become a threat in the future.
The threat of 'nuke' is on their mind alot more, Pakistan doesnt fully align itself with west either, plus its also one of China's emergency fuel line'
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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This yet again shows the importance of internal security, ideology and political cohesion. With no change in military hardware, the conclusion would be totally different without spies and saboteurs on the ground.

When Hu said, right before Xi took office, that corruption and ideological apathy were the biggest threats to China, he was right. Xi immediately started an anti corruption and pro ideology drive. 不忘初心 is the most important of all.
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
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Stop posting AI slop
Doesn't look AI to be honest with all the Israeli censorship and propaganda we have. The reality is that even with the multi-nacional multilayer system in place they still can't stop these missiles and Israel doesn't have the capabilities to downgrade significantly Iran attack capabilities, that is a known fact since the Obama administration as much the Israeli propagandists want to think otherwise. If the number of missiles increase and the defense systems collapse, the US will have no choice to either enter the war itself or force Israel to called quicks.
 
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