2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

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tokenanalyst

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AlexYe said:
Russia did too

And mayyyyyyyyybe regime change? That video of Netanyahu asking the 'iranian people to rise up'
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Of course is "regime change" but one thing is what you want and another very different is what you get. Is this rate it could be Bibi and his party out of power. Is like a Tel Aviv politician said, they are getting tired of Netanyahu multi-front wars.
 
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Botnet said:
Not a rocket guy so I can’t speak to the qualitative differences between the two but I will say that outside of the effectiveness of Iranian missiles we also have to consider the distances. Russia can launch cruise missiles right outside the Ukrainian borders. Kyiv is not that far away. Iran, in comparison, can only launch ballistic missiles from within their borders, and those missiles have to travel hundreds of miles through Iraq, Syria, and then finally Israel. Many are detected and intercepted along that route by Israeli AWACs and other means. Israel itself is about what…20 times smaller than Ukraine? Their IADS umbrella has a much easier time covering the entirety of their territory compared to Ukraine which has to cover a much larger surface area, many more potential targets and infrastructure, all with less AD as well. We forget how heavily defended Israeli airspace is. Their layered IADS is supplemented by their AWACs and F-35s. Its not surprising the vast majority of missiles are intercepted. The differences with Ukraine are vast.
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Agreed.

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A very cool video of an interception.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1933651833471565933
 
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delfer said:
I feel it’s time for Iran to go all out. Even use MRBMs if necessary. They’ve demonstrated that they can actually hit back, they can overwhelm Israel’s AD, and they can hit relatively accurately. Israel doesn’t want to back down, so they need to strike hard, and strike now.

Israel only understands the language of force, and force is what they need to use. And if Israel won’t back off, then the US likely will, especially if they see Iran is willing fight back. And with the US being the real driving force behind Israel, they’ll have little choice but to obey.
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We need to stop coping about Iran’s abilities. If you want to cope, the cope is that even if the unthinkable happens and Iran is regime changed, any government in Iran will remain economically dependent on China since China will always be the main customer of Iranian oil. The best outcome for Iran right now is that this deescalates so they have time to build a nuke
 
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