The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[defenceman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1922236028191957059

Hi,
I think he the most nearest to LOC nautical miles, when Pl15 found him
usually I think because of less distance in between the border he is
not been able to eject outside on time
thank you

 

[Nevermore]

Pakistan has too few ground weapons, such as drones, ballistic missiles, and anti-aircraft missiles. If the competition is about continuously throwing weapons at each other from a distance, it is obvious that Pakistan cannot win.

 

[Kejora]

Pakistan has too few ground weapons, such as drones, ballistic missiles, and anti-aircraft missiles. If the competition is about continuously throwing weapons at each other from a distance, it is obvious that Pakistan cannot win.

They should procure a lot of cheap drones from China like Ukraine. Ukraine still manage to regularly hit Russian refineries, factories and arm depots despite the presence of Russia AD.

 

[grulle]

Was the HQ-9 deployed in the Kashmir region? How did those SCALP missiles get through?

 

[Tomboy]

Was the HQ-9 deployed in the Kashmir region? How did those SCALP missiles get through?

Atleast one SCALP was downed so presumably it was either the HQ-16 or the HQ-9

 

[grulle]

I commend the J10/PL15. That is good news. But the fact that so many Indian missiles got through is not good. Which is why I am wondering whether the HQ-9 was deployed in the region. Maybe not in sufficient quantities?

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

I really like J8 too. Something with the design really stick with me.

Seeing how the future of BVR are going towards, and J8 does have a rather large nose cone. It would be possible to modernize them into BVR missile trucks, with a better engine, and double up the hard points, they can carry 8 PL15 each. Sit back and toss those missiles into BVR.

Yes, because the 600 or so J-15/J-11s fail to provide the PLAAF with a sufficient number of BVR missile trucks. /s

 

[bebops]

I commend the J10/PL15. That is good news. But the fact that so many Indian missiles got through is not good. Which is why I am wondering whether the HQ-9 was deployed in the region. Maybe not in sufficient quantities?

your thoughts are exactly 100% same as mines. Some people said it is not enough HQ9 units. I dont know but I am concerned.

Several years ago India did a test shot on Pak using Brahmos without the explosive warhead. It went through the defense layer and hit some rural area.

I watched on youtube titled "Israel Strikes Iran | Iran's Air Defence Systems Intercept Israeli Strikes"

The missile interceptions sounded like firecrackers. They have an impressive defense system.

 

[Gloire_bb]

Was the HQ-9 deployed in the Kashmir region? How did those SCALP missiles get through?

When missile like SCALP follows terrain, engagement cycle is short, and missile frequently masks behind foliage etc. Some of this "foliage"(high raises) you really don't want to hit by accident, unless you don't care about your own population.

It's a hard engagement to process, especially if you don't have very high mast for your FC radar. There are of course ways to raise it, but more than a few of them turn SAM into sitting duck, as you can't evacuate them fast (not necessary, but additional features as usual cost money).
If there's many of them doing penetration more or less simultaneously, chances to leak are very high.

Furthermore, HQ-9 until last Zhuhai (which doesn't mean deployment even in PLA, yet) simply didn't have a smaller interceptor(not that what they shown is really small, but at least it isn't SRBM under cover).

This means huge exploitable dead zone (over two miles), not that many interceptors available, and huge collateral concerns (if you want to check what 180kg warhead does when it accidentally hits residential highrise - check Ukraine).

Best way to counter - relatively short range missiles with moderate warhead. But since attacker choses flight paths - every such point needs quite a few interceptors, and you may need a lot of them

 

[grulle]

When missile like SCALP follows terrain, engagement cycle is short, and missile frequently masks behind foliage etc. Some of this "foliage"(high raises) you really don't want to hit by accident, unless you don't care about your own population.

It's a hard engagement to process, especially if you don't have very high mast for your FC radar. There are of course ways to raise it, but more than a few of them turn SAM into sitting duck, as you can't evacuate them fast (not necessary, but additional features as usual cost money).
If there's many of them doing penetration more or less simultaneously, chances to leak are very high.

Furthermore, HQ-9 until last Zhuhai (which doesn't mean deployment even in PLA, yet) simply didn't have a smaller interceptor(not that what they shown is really small, but at least it isn't SRBM under cover).

This means huge exploitable dead zone (over two miles), not that many interceptors available, and huge collateral concerns (if you want to check what 180kg warhead does when it accidentally hits residential highrise - check Ukraine).

Best way to counter - relatively short range missiles with moderate warhead. But since attacker choses flight paths - every such point needs quite a few interceptors, and you may need a lot of them

well that's just wonderful. What is China going to do then when the US starts lobbing JASSMs left and right?