The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[mack8]

Everything is going so fast here, but just to comment on the IAF Su-30MKI remaining increasingly behind tech wise as some posted previously. The other day another member provided info that seems to show India ordered RVV-SD and RVV-MD missiles, but of course the 110 km RVV-SD is outranged by the 145 km PL-15E. However the decade old Super-30 saga is entirely India's fault, through not only it's own bureaucratic maze but also willingness to kowtow to US sanctions, preventing the russian involvement in the upgrade as apparently it was planned at first.

They haven't even taken a more modest step of at least upgrading their fleet to something akin to the Su-30SM2 standard, involving an updated Bars radar and crucially the ability to fire the long range 200 km RVV-BD. Had they done so even the J-10C/PL-15E combo would have been hard pressed (not downplaying J-10/PL-15 proven excellent capability, but numbers do matter afterall), the RVV-BD might not be as agile as PL-15 but it does it's thing by brute force, big, long range, very fast, big warhead. Ukraine shows the russian R-37 is the most dangerous missile to face, with likely many kills to it's credit, so it is NOT to be taken lightly.

So yeah, this is one of the reasons Su-30MKI did apparently subpar both in 2019 (basic RVV-AE was outranged by AIM-120C back then) and now, and i'm saying this as a russian aviation fanboy, alongside being a chinese aviation/navy fanboy of course.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Everything is going so fast here, but just to comment on the IAF Su-30MKI remaining increasingly behind tech wise as some posted previously. The other day another member provided info that seems to show India ordered RVV-SD and RVV-MD missiles, but of course the 110 km RVV-SD is outranged by the 145 km PL-15E. However the decade old Super-30 saga is entirely India's fault, through not only it's own bureaucratic maze but also willingness to kowtow to US sanctions, preventing the russian involvement in the upgrade as apparently it was planned at first.

They haven't even taken a more modest step of at least upgrading their fleet to something akin to the Su-30SM2 standard, involving an updated Bars radar and crucially the ability to fire the long range 200 km RVV-BD. Had they done so even the J-10C/PL-15E combo would have been hard pressed (not downplaying J-10/PL-15 proven excellent capability, but numbers do matter afterall), the RVV-BD might not be as agile as PL-15 but it does it's thing by brute force, big, long range, very fast, big warhead. Ukraine shows the russian R-37 is the most dangerous missile to face, with likely many kills to it's credit, so it is NOT to be taken lightly.

So yeah, this is one of the reasons Su-30MKI did apparently subpar both in 2019 (basic RVV-AE was outranged by AIM-120C back then) and now, and i'm saying this as a russian aviation fanboy, alongside being a chinese aviation/navy fanboy of course.

The have the Super MKI upgrade option which will add AESA and integrate with domestic munitions.

 

[Tomboy]

The have the Super MKI upgrade option which will add AESA and integrate with domestic munitions.

Super-30 has been teased ever since I was still in primary school lmao and yet word is that I'll get my bachelor before the first Super-30 rolls out of the assembly line

 

[Tomboy]

Supposedly a SCALP-EG downed by Pakistani air defense

 

[HereToSeePics]

I am looking for the part where it says India called US and begged for help. Try a bit more.

This kind of escalatory back and fourth has to stop. You are reply banned from this thread for 24 hours

So we've arrived at the common termus of all Indian cope where inability to perform basic deductive reasoning is invoked huh. lol
Well without reading between the lines I guess we only have evidence India called Pakistan to beg for mercy.

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[JayBird]

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Supposedly a SCALP-EG downed by Pakistani air defense

That's much better than Indian showing partial AIM-120C and PL-15E to the world that your fighter jets just got blasted by it like some kind of accomplishment both in 2019 and 2025.

 

[Observer1]

There's currently an Air Force press conference going on.

Some really important stuff being said (claimed) that Pakistani air defence systems were able to intercept BrahMos' travelling at supersonic speeds.

While Indians claim they were launched by air, it was actually surface-to-surface salvo launch. Some did get through but some were intercepted. The system is most probably Chinese.

 

[sequ]

There's currently an Air Force press conference going on.

Some really important stuff being said (claimed) that Pakistani air defence systems were able to intercept BrahMos' travelling at supersonic speeds.

While Indians claim they were launched by air, it was actually surface-to-surface salvo launch. Some did get through but some were intercepted. The system is most probably Chinese.

He also mentioned using jamming to cause drones and Brahmoses to miss their targets.

 

[Neurosmith]

The system is most probably Chinese.

Yeah nobody is expecting the SPADA 2000 to be doing this sort of thing.

 

[neutralobserver]

So much disinformation by India (copium due to ceasefire, they thought India was winning so hard for Indian Public to accept cease)

They started claiming that they had hit nuclear weapons in Nur Khan Air base (which is ironic because Nur Khan Airbase doesn't host fighters. It is usually for VIP transport). Then they claimed there was a US Department of Energy airplane flying over the airspace to monitor the radiation...turns out its a Pakistan Aviation plane lol