The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[AndrewJ]

Have we confirmed it's 3 Rafale down? How?

 

[Firetrap]

Better footage of a crashed Su-30MKI

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921603692567867785

Is that a Kashmiri dialect being spoken as this was supposed to be in a different area? I wish there was a way to verify the date of this footage but it's entirely possible it is old so don't hold your hopes up too high folks!

 

[proelite]

Air force.

Not sure why the PAF is responsible for defending against supersonic cruise missiles that have 500-560-mile range. That's on the AA defense networks.

 

[sdkan]

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Times have really changed.

They actually praised weapons made in China

 

[siegecrossbow]

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Why is J-31 V2.0 firing a PL-21 in the artwork? Is J-10C a transformer now?

 

[iewgnem]

I am saying PAF failed to do its day job - which is protecting Pakistani assets.

They didn't. If they did, we will see Pakistani officials giving press release showing damage report at Indian bases right now. Once they do, I will change my opinion.

Oh and India didn't beg anyone.

They have no choice on that matter. India has the same card against China that Pakistan has against India.

PAF ROE didn't give authorization to return fire until IAF launched their attack, or did you forget India fired the first shot?
But it looks like PAF they did a pretty good job killing the terrorists afterwards. I mean did it sound like Godzilla ejected? Did it look like the MKI ejection seat had parachute attached? lol

While you're waiting for credible Pakistan briefing, you can make do with Indian media, which as you clearly understand lacks credibility.

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US says you begged, Pakistan says you begged, you know the entire world is laughing at you right?

How about you figure out how to survive against the export J-10C from PAF before you pretend you have cards against China okay?

 

[N00B]

That's an impossible benchmark. India had dozens of aircraft in the air with standoff munitions and they were attacking sites that were 50km from the Indian border. India was expected to do damage and do a lot more damage with few to no losses.

The only realistic criterion for judging the PAF is the loss ratio.

Why would India play fair?

If Pakistan is happy with the k/d ratio and considers it victory, that is acceptable. Here is my earlier comment on how I how see the whole thing went down.

I can't think of a better outcome for India than this. In total, Pakistan bagged two air-to-air kills. I am ok with that.

 

[mack8]

So what do more informed folks make of the recent videos allegedly showing Su-30MKI and Rafale/M-88 wreckages, are they undeniably from couple of days ago? They must come from indian sources. Also in the Su-30 footage, could someone point to a detail identifying it clearly as a Su-30? I THINK i can see an engine nozzle that looks like AL-31 on the right, but not quite sure. Also not quite sure to identify the engine compressor/vane (?) on the left.

 

[CaribouTruth]

Better footage of a crashed Su-30MKI

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921603692567867785

I don't think this is Akhnoor, it looks like a pine forest so it has to be further towards the north.

 

[N00B]

US says you begged

If you are talking about the CNN, they clearly mentioned "according to Pakistani officials." If you have something else, post it.

PAF ROE didn't give authorization to return fire until IAF launched their attack

Fair enough. Guess we will have to leave it at "war isn't fair".