Trump 2.0 official thread
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Guys,
US allies will make deals.
They gonna moan and complain. In the end they going to sign deals
And after that, they going to “work” on China as a group.
Actually not that hard to believe. But again.. let’s wait and see.
US allies will make deals.
They gonna moan and complain. In the end they going to sign deals
And after that, they going to “work” on China as a group.
Actually not that hard to believe. But again.. let’s wait and see.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Trump says China wants to deal but they don’t know how while Bessemer is telling China to make a deal. Translation… China ain’t talking at all. Again Trump trying spin that he’s in control.
I smell the stink of the Ganges,here-Tibet-Xizang-go back to the childrens' table-lunch will be served soon
Cope 2022
"China, help us destroy Russia so we can have a easier time to destroy you
"Cope 2025
"World, we will coerce you to help us to destroy China so we can coerce and destroy you even further afterwards with ease"
Lethe
Captain
In times of great turmoil, I take comfort in grandiloquent expressions of universal pessimism:
"If God meant to interfere in the degeneracy of mankind would he not have done so by now? The way of the world is to bloom and to flower and die, but in the affairs of men there is no waning and the noon of his expression signals the onset of night [….] This you see here, these ruins wondered at by tribes of savages, do you not think that this will be again?" -- Cormac McCarthy
"Observe now your own epoch of history as it appears to the Last Men. Long before the human spirit awoke to clear cognizance of the world and itself, it sometimes stirred in its sleep, opened bewildered eyes, and slept again. One of these moments of precocious experience embraces the whole struggle of the First Men from savagery toward civilization. Within that moment, you stand almost in the very instant when the species attains its zenith. Scarcely at all beyond your own day is this early culture to be seen progressing, and already in your time the mentality of the race shows signs of decline [...] Animals that were fashioned for hunting and fighting in the wild were suddenly called upon to be citizens, and moreover citizens of a world-community. At the same time they found themselves possessed of certain very dangerous powers which their petty minds were not fit to use. Man struggled; but, as you shall hear, he broke under the strain. " -- Olaf Stapledon
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever." -- George Orwell
"Brief and powerless is Man's life; on him and all his race the slow, sure doom falls pitiless and dark." -- Betrand Russell
"What is truth? for the multitude [it is] that which it continually reads and hears. A forlorn little drop may settle somewhere and collect grounds on which to determine the 'truth' - but what it obtains is just its truth. The other, the public truth of the moment, which alone matters for effects and successes in the fact-world, is today a product of the press. What the press wills is true. Its comanders evoke, transform, interchange truths. Three weeks of press work, and the 'truth' is acknowledged by everybody [....] The competitors strive by means of money to detach readers, en masse, from the hostile allegiance and to bring them under their own mind-training. And all that they learn in this mind-training is what is considered that they should know - a higher will puts together the picture of their world for them [....] This is the end of democracy. If in the world of truths it is proof that decides all, in that of facts it is success [....] Through money, democracy becomes its own destroyer, after money has destroyed intellect [....] the dreams of the world improvers have turned out to be but the tools of master-natures [...] now sets in the final battle between Democracy and Caesarism, between the leading forces of dictatorial money-economics and the purely political will-to-order of the Caesars." -- Oswald Spengler
"Who knows the end? What has risen may sink, and what has sunk may rise. Loathsomeness waits and dreams in the deep, and decay spreads over the tottering cities of men." -- H. P. Lovecraft
"If God meant to interfere in the degeneracy of mankind would he not have done so by now? The way of the world is to bloom and to flower and die, but in the affairs of men there is no waning and the noon of his expression signals the onset of night [….] This you see here, these ruins wondered at by tribes of savages, do you not think that this will be again?" -- Cormac McCarthy
"Observe now your own epoch of history as it appears to the Last Men. Long before the human spirit awoke to clear cognizance of the world and itself, it sometimes stirred in its sleep, opened bewildered eyes, and slept again. One of these moments of precocious experience embraces the whole struggle of the First Men from savagery toward civilization. Within that moment, you stand almost in the very instant when the species attains its zenith. Scarcely at all beyond your own day is this early culture to be seen progressing, and already in your time the mentality of the race shows signs of decline [...] Animals that were fashioned for hunting and fighting in the wild were suddenly called upon to be citizens, and moreover citizens of a world-community. At the same time they found themselves possessed of certain very dangerous powers which their petty minds were not fit to use. Man struggled; but, as you shall hear, he broke under the strain. " -- Olaf Stapledon
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever." -- George Orwell
"Brief and powerless is Man's life; on him and all his race the slow, sure doom falls pitiless and dark." -- Betrand Russell
"What is truth? for the multitude [it is] that which it continually reads and hears. A forlorn little drop may settle somewhere and collect grounds on which to determine the 'truth' - but what it obtains is just its truth. The other, the public truth of the moment, which alone matters for effects and successes in the fact-world, is today a product of the press. What the press wills is true. Its comanders evoke, transform, interchange truths. Three weeks of press work, and the 'truth' is acknowledged by everybody [....] The competitors strive by means of money to detach readers, en masse, from the hostile allegiance and to bring them under their own mind-training. And all that they learn in this mind-training is what is considered that they should know - a higher will puts together the picture of their world for them [....] This is the end of democracy. If in the world of truths it is proof that decides all, in that of facts it is success [....] Through money, democracy becomes its own destroyer, after money has destroyed intellect [....] the dreams of the world improvers have turned out to be but the tools of master-natures [...] now sets in the final battle between Democracy and Caesarism, between the leading forces of dictatorial money-economics and the purely political will-to-order of the Caesars." -- Oswald Spengler
"Who knows the end? What has risen may sink, and what has sunk may rise. Loathsomeness waits and dreams in the deep, and decay spreads over the tottering cities of men." -- H. P. Lovecraft
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
First of all, if 70 of them called to make deals, they are aware of each other then it's not one-on-one deals anymore even if they sit alone at the table.
Secondly, US allies already "work" together on China... and they make no headway whatsoever. Any democrat president would have gotten better cooperation just by talking to them. By threatening them and then calling them ass kissers when they come to negotiate, Trump has set them up to at most look cooperative in word, but not in spirit.
Lastly, Trump supporters are so stupid they've forgotten what this was all about; this is all about China. What kind of "victory" is it to bully Canada/Vietnam/Japan/Korea? You came for the bear skin rug but you're cheering over a keychain full of rat skulls. And you don't even have the skulls yet; you just see the rats. What did you get out of China?
Yeah, we'll see but so far, Trump's record has been failure at every crisis. He failed his first trade war against China; he failed the tech war and it's still falling from the stairs for America even through another president's term; and he failed bigly during COVID management. You think this time he's got it? LOL He's on the clock; all this panic is to stop China from outgrowing the US economically and technologically and while both were already happening, now he has to contend with America going backwards into recession just to slow China's growth by an estimated 0.5%.
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Fallout is literally the least insane timeline at this point…
The kind of incompetence we saw from Biden in taking on both Russia and China simultaneously is now being mirrored by Trump in his approach to trade.