JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[taimikhan]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Posted by wangrong at another Pakistani forum, the JF-17 production factory, premises at PAC Kamra.

 

[noone536]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

wonder why are they using camouflage?

 

[taimikhan]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

wonder why are they using camouflage?

The production plant is located in PAC Kamra, and this whole facility also consists of a Main Operating Base, thus camouflage kind of stuff is used on the buildings as well as for other things.

 

[lilzz]

Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009

Just modify the shape of head a bit then the FC-1 would look alook like the F-35. The intakes are already similar.

FC-1 looks more stealthy than the J-10A.

 

[Lion]

Islamabad—Indian print and electronic media have suggested that Paris had submitted to Indian blackmail tricks and pressures and cancelled a defence deal with Pakistan


A daily Indian Express report on Wednesday said that India last week finalised a $2.2 billion deal with France to upgrade its fleet of Mirage 2000 fighters and indicated that Paris suspended the sale of electronics and missiles for Pakistan’s JF 17 fighters under “Indian pressure”.

The report claimed that Indian Air Force also finalized a deal with France for upgradation of 51 fighters and the Price Negotiation Committee only last week reached an accord on the cost.

The upgrading of Indian Mirage 2000s will give the aircraft new radar systems, a new weapon suite, missiles, electronic warfare system and modern electronic warfare to convert the combat-proven aircraft into next-generation fighters.

The French move came as a blow to Pakistan government which looked forward to sign an accord with Paris during Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani’s forthcoming visit to Europe.

The Indian report claimed that as India reached the accord France announced that its plans to sell $1.6 billion worth of military equipment for Pakistan’s JF 17 fighters had been put on hold.

Other media reports confirmed that the contract was suspended under Indian pressure while France cited its doubts over Pakistan’s ability to pay for the systems.


According to reports the French industrial ATE (Aeronautics and embedded technologies) has just been banned through CIEEMG (Interministerial Commission on Study of Exports of War Material) to sign a contract to supply hundreds of millions of euros equipment to the Pakistan Air Force. France had originally agreed to equip more than 350 JF-17 aircraft.


After 18 months of negotiations, the French company OTE, coupled with Thales and MBDA were given the contract by Islamabad. It was the first part of a package of six billion euros to equip the whole of the JF-17 Pakistan Air Force, nearly 400 fighters. The contract could be concluded during the forthcoming visit to Paris of Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani later this month.

According to French daily Le Monde is sue on April 3, France “will not give its green light to a contract of 1.2 billion euros for the electronics equipment and missile than a hundred fighter aircraft JF-17, manufactured by Pakistan with Chinese assistance.

One report quoted an advisor of the President of the Republic as saying that “this refusal is, inter alia, related to French-Indian relations.”

According to the Quai d’Orsay “the Pakistanis wanted contrary to the terms of the contract, that the assemblies and equipment of JF-17 will do so on their land.”

:china: China radar, China missile for JF-17. Soon a China engine of maybe WS-13 will fit in.

 

[rhino123]

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I do not prefer the French stick with Chinese avionic and Missile chinese avonic better then French.

Please... this type of statement will always end up with country bashing sentiments within our otherwise fine forum. Please refrain from saying this type of thing, unless you have proof to back you up.

 

[Lion]

Please... this type of statement will always end up with country bashing sentiments within our otherwise fine forum. Please refrain from saying this type of thing, unless you have proof to back you up.

although hanzo say it in a blunt way but he more or less say out the sentiment regarding JF-17.

And crobato is correct in his assessment years ago regarding JF-17 is going to stick with all chinese radar and weapon even after 50 batch unlike some fanboy who refuse to accept the truth and even think they can get anything from western. I think this news came at a right time to shut those people up..

 

[rhino123]

although hanzo say it in a blunt way but he more or less say out the sentiment regarding JF-17.

And crobato is correct in his assessment years ago regarding JF-17 is going to stick with all chinese radar and weapon even after 50 batch unlike some fanboy who refuse to accept the truth and even think they can get anything from western. I think this news came at a right time to shut those people up..

Yes... I agree with you... I myself have make some assessments and analysis into whether to change the engine on the JF-17 (back a couple of posts). What I am concern is the choice of words this poster Hanzo had chose to use.

We should be showing respect to all nations in general... and in case anyone forget... this is an international forum, and we do have french nationals here.

 

[Baibar of Jalat]

although hanzo say it in a blunt way but he more or less say out the sentiment regarding JF-17.

And crobato is correct in his assessment years ago regarding JF-17 is going to stick with all chinese radar and weapon even after 50 batch unlike some fanboy who refuse to accept the truth and even think they can get anything from western. I think this news came at a right time to shut those people up..

Seems like PAF has no choice, but to stick with Chinese avionics after French postponement. Crobato was wrong then to believe PAF always favoured Chinese tech for next batch. As French decision has highlighted they were looking at French avionics, but politics or money stop deal.
Naturally, PAF would demand better avionics for second batch, Chinese companies should meet that demand, hopefully these companies can offer better tech then what the French were offering.

 

[bd popeye]

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