solarz
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Trump does have the ability to implement those tariffs. By using them as a threat, he gets concessions each time. It works because neither of those countries have any leaders with balls.
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Trump does have the ability to implement those tariffs. By using them as a threat, he gets concessions each time. It works because neither of those countries have any leaders with balls.
How do we know that he 'got' anything? And as I said, it's a question of whether he has the administrative-logistical mass apparatus, personnel, and political capacity to enforce and maintain those tariffs. Yeah, he can sign some paper, but then what? Do you think that someone who backtracks 10 times has more 'balls' instead of those countries lmao? And we are talking about a supposed numba 1 supapowa here. If that were the case, then why do they even need so much roundabout gymnastics to enforce their will on their first neighbor on even basic issues?
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solarz
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Canada imposed tariffs on China. As for why Trump does it instead of some other way: it's Trump, duh!
I think he is saving it for April 1st because that’s the day of the reciprocal tariffs. There is a theory that the Trump administration wants a crash because they have $7 trillion of short term treasury bonds that need to pay. He doesn’t want to refinance. So they plan cause a crash to increase the demand of these bonds and lower yields. Sounds insane but I can see this being the explanation of his economic policies.
This is very much a case where halon's ranzor apply.
In a lot of cases he gets nothing, in some cases he gets something for the newspapers but which is pointless strategically.
Trump can only try to milk the western countries even more, but the problem is that these cows have already been milked to the bone. In the mean time, he's made far more concessions that actually matter (such as in Ukraine) than what anyone has given him back.
I think really the only way this can rationally be explained is that a bankruptcy/economic collapse is imminent. It doesn't make sense to surrender so much money/land to America's enemies. It doesn't make sense to start a ton of different arguments with the only countries willing to bootlick US. Unless the economy situation really is so dire that what we're seeing is US doing the economic equivalent of what USSR was doing in the opening months of Barbarossa.
What now? How will the CIA publish data on the collapse of the Chinese economy? Will it trust Peter Zeihan and Serpentza?
solarz
Brigadier
I don't know about that, from my point of view, US vassals are still doing everything Trump wants despite protests to the contrary.
When Donald Trump goes behind the backs of America's European allies and Ukraine to talk to Vladimr Putin and comes to a "understanding". And then try to force that unacceptable "deal" down the throats of Ukraine and Europe using strongarm and bullying tactics is nothing less than betrayel.
Americans see the Europeans as weak freeloaders who are unable or unwilling to defend themselves. But I will tell you that the Americans will live to regret abandoning her European allies.
The arrangement between America and Europe is that the Americans station about 100000 troops in Europe and promise the Europeans to defend them if Russia attacks them. And give Ukraine military aid to fight of the Russian invasion. In return everytime the Americans tell the Europeans to jump Europe will just ask how high. Europe have been subservient to US political, diplomatic and economic interest for almost 80 years. And even more so after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Europe is also a large buyer of American arms and maybe the largest foreign investor in the US.
But now that America is no longer seen as a protector and friend the Europeans will be less accommodating to American dictates and European purchase of American arms will also drop off. And European investors will start to withdraw investments from the US too. You don't want to have billions of not trillions of dollars invested in a country that is seen as politically unreliable if not outright hostile.
I have been watching the Dollar index (DXY) and the Euro Dollar exchange rate ever since that fiasco in the White House between Zelensky and Trump and the DXY is collapsing in value while the Euro is shooting up. This is European investors redrawing funds out of America. America has benefitted financially from the world order they have created since the end of WWII. But if the Americans are now dismantling that world order with their own hands then those benefits will go away with it.
And its not only on Ukraine that Trump is butting heads with Europe but its also tariffs and Greenland. America is now seen by a lot of Europeans as coming close to be a hostile power.
Americans see the Europeans as weak freeloaders who are unable or unwilling to defend themselves. But I will tell you that the Americans will live to regret abandoning her European allies.
The arrangement between America and Europe is that the Americans station about 100000 troops in Europe and promise the Europeans to defend them if Russia attacks them. And give Ukraine military aid to fight of the Russian invasion. In return everytime the Americans tell the Europeans to jump Europe will just ask how high. Europe have been subservient to US political, diplomatic and economic interest for almost 80 years. And even more so after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Europe is also a large buyer of American arms and maybe the largest foreign investor in the US.
But now that America is no longer seen as a protector and friend the Europeans will be less accommodating to American dictates and European purchase of American arms will also drop off. And European investors will start to withdraw investments from the US too. You don't want to have billions of not trillions of dollars invested in a country that is seen as politically unreliable if not outright hostile.
I have been watching the Dollar index (DXY) and the Euro Dollar exchange rate ever since that fiasco in the White House between Zelensky and Trump and the DXY is collapsing in value while the Euro is shooting up. This is European investors redrawing funds out of America. America has benefitted financially from the world order they have created since the end of WWII. But if the Americans are now dismantling that world order with their own hands then those benefits will go away with it.
And its not only on Ukraine that Trump is butting heads with Europe but its also tariffs and Greenland. America is now seen by a lot of Europeans as coming close to be a hostile power.
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