JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
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ISLAMABAD, Feb 18 (APP): Another major milestone was achieved when the first Squadron of JF-17 Thunder formally joined fighter aircraft fleet of Pakistan Air Force on Thursday. A ceremony for the formal induction of JF-17 Thunder aircraft was held at one of the PAF’s operational bases. Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force was chief guest on the occasion.
The Chief of the Air Staff addressing the Airmen congratulated the nation and the PAF personnel on the momentous occasion.
“The formal induction of JF-17 aircraft in the PAF is in line with our resolve to face all challenges with poise and self-confidence. The PAF has invested in the force multipliers like the Air-to-Air refuellers, UAVs and AEW&C aircraft to enhance our capacity and capability to undertake complex operations,” he said.
“ These new state-of-the-art inductions make it imperative that we train hard and prepare well to induct and integrate the new systems professionally and safely. The achievements of PAF leave no doubt in my mind that we are immensely capable and, as a team, can set and achieve still higher standards”.
“We are a peaceful nation with no aggressive designs and want to maintain peace with honour in our region. We are inducting new systems to keep pace with technology and maintain credible conventional balance of force, without which peace cannot be ensured in South Asia,” he said.
He said that the JF-17 would be put through its paces in the forthcoming Exercise Hi-Mark 2010.
The ‘JF-17 Thunder’ has the capability to undertake entire spectrum of offensive as well as defensive missions. By joining the elite ranks of PAF, the JF-17 would not only enhance the combat readiness of PAF but also form its back-bone in future.
The ceremony culminated when an A-5-III fighter led three JF-17 Thunder aircraft in a flypast following which a single JF-17 performed aerobatics over the venue.
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First Squadron of JF-17 Thunder inducted in PAF
ISLAMABAD, Feb 18 (APP): Another major milestone was achieved when the first Squadron of JF-17 Thunder formally joined fighter aircraft fleet of Pakistan Air Force on Thursday. A ceremony for the formal induction of JF-17 Thunder aircraft was held at one of the PAF’s operational bases. Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force was chief guest on the occasion.
The Chief of the Air Staff addressing the Airmen congratulated the nation and the PAF personnel on the momentous occasion.
“The formal induction of JF-17 aircraft in the PAF is in line with our resolve to face all challenges with poise and self-confidence. The PAF has invested in the force multipliers like the Air-to-Air refuellers, UAVs and AEW&C aircraft to enhance our capacity and capability to undertake complex operations,” he said.
“ These new state-of-the-art inductions make it imperative that we train hard and prepare well to induct and integrate the new systems professionally and safely. The achievements of PAF leave no doubt in my mind that we are immensely capable and, as a team, can set and achieve still higher standards”.
“We are a peaceful nation with no aggressive designs and want to maintain peace with honour in our region. We are inducting new systems to keep pace with technology and maintain credible conventional balance of force, without which peace cannot be ensured in South Asia,” he said.
He said that the JF-17 would be put through its paces in the forthcoming Exercise Hi-Mark 2010.
The ‘JF-17 Thunder’ has the capability to undertake entire spectrum of offensive as well as defensive missions. By joining the elite ranks of PAF, the JF-17 would not only enhance the combat readiness of PAF but also form its back-bone in future.
The ceremony culminated when an A-5-III fighter led three JF-17 Thunder aircraft in a flypast following which a single JF-17 performed aerobatics over the venue.
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
i suppose i should post this for fair use. It's already appeared on CDF and various pakistani forums
not too unexpected really. I was expecting China to export assembly lines + some form of ToT to Egypt for a while now. I'm guessing this is also a possibility with other sales. Seems like JF-17 is pretty much geared at K-8 countries.
Interesting part with UAV, I think there are certainly a lot of UAV models that China could also to Egypt. Maybe it already is a customer of CH-3.
i suppose i should post this for fair use. It's already appeared on CDF and various pakistani forums
not too unexpected really. I was expecting China to export assembly lines + some form of ToT to Egypt for a while now. I'm guessing this is also a possibility with other sales. Seems like JF-17 is pretty much geared at K-8 countries.
Interesting part with UAV, I think there are certainly a lot of UAV models that China could also to Egypt. Maybe it already is a customer of CH-3.
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
中国隐身版枭龙性能数据曝光，首飞指日可待
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送交者: 三好学生 2010年03月05日19:41:43 于 [世界军事论坛] 发送悄悄话
中国隐身版枭龙性能数据曝光，首飞指日可待
据中国航空工业第一集团公司成都飞机研究所权威人士透露：成都飞机工业集团根据枭龙全球市场销售前景和我军自用枭龙战机应该内外有别的原则。在原枭龙战机 的基础上全新自主成功研制出，隐身型YFC-1E多功能单发双垂尾“枭龙”歼击机。根据国际、国内市场需求自主研制开发的先进隐身轻型多用途 YFC-1E“枭龙”歼击机。能够适应21世纪作战环境特点，完全能够满足中国人民解放军第四代新型航空武器装备高低搭配的发展需求。
YFC-1E枭龙战斗机主要数据：
翼展9.18米
机长15.16米
机高4.65米
主轮距2.71米
前主轮距5.12米
正常起飞重量10000千克
最大起飞重量13800千克
外挂能力3800千克
机内燃油2500升
最大最大马赫数M1.72
最大实用升限17500米
起飞滑跑距离435米
着陆滑跑距离680米
航程2500千米
限制过载8G
中国航空工业第一集团公司自行研制、具有完全自主知识产权的YFC-1E“枭龙”隐身全状态飞机05架在其01.03.04架原型机基础上，进行了气动、 结构和系统的优化全新设计，采用先进的“蚌”式进气道及双垂尾翼等创新技术，并应用多项综合制造新技术，配装有国内最为先进的高度综合化航空电子和武器系 统，配置国际领先的具有良好人机界面的座舱综合显示设备，隐身型“枭龙”战机的整体性能和综合作战能力大幅提升。
相对于此前已成功首飞的“枭龙”01架.03架.04架飞机属平台状态的“升级隐身版”，着重于对飞机机体的研制，主要用于支持试飞、保障飞行安全而 言，05架“枭龙”战机达到可实用交付的全状态，完全可以称之为“超级隐身完整版”。
业内人士称，隐形YFC-1E“枭龙”战机全状态成功首飞指日可待
它将为该飞机的批量生产奠定了坚实基础，是中国先进航空武器装备研制取得的又一重大成果，标志着中国航空工业实现新一代先进轻型隐身战斗机研发的新跨越。
stealth version of FC-1 is currently being develop.
中国隐身版枭龙性能数据曝光，首飞指日可待
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送交者: 三好学生 2010年03月05日19:41:43 于 [世界军事论坛] 发送悄悄话
中国隐身版枭龙性能数据曝光，首飞指日可待
据中国航空工业第一集团公司成都飞机研究所权威人士透露：成都飞机工业集团根据枭龙全球市场销售前景和我军自用枭龙战机应该内外有别的原则。在原枭龙战机 的基础上全新自主成功研制出，隐身型YFC-1E多功能单发双垂尾“枭龙”歼击机。根据国际、国内市场需求自主研制开发的先进隐身轻型多用途 YFC-1E“枭龙”歼击机。能够适应21世纪作战环境特点，完全能够满足中国人民解放军第四代新型航空武器装备高低搭配的发展需求。
YFC-1E枭龙战斗机主要数据：
翼展9.18米
机长15.16米
机高4.65米
主轮距2.71米
前主轮距5.12米
正常起飞重量10000千克
最大起飞重量13800千克
外挂能力3800千克
机内燃油2500升
最大最大马赫数M1.72
最大实用升限17500米
起飞滑跑距离435米
着陆滑跑距离680米
航程2500千米
限制过载8G
中国航空工业第一集团公司自行研制、具有完全自主知识产权的YFC-1E“枭龙”隐身全状态飞机05架在其01.03.04架原型机基础上，进行了气动、 结构和系统的优化全新设计，采用先进的“蚌”式进气道及双垂尾翼等创新技术，并应用多项综合制造新技术，配装有国内最为先进的高度综合化航空电子和武器系 统，配置国际领先的具有良好人机界面的座舱综合显示设备，隐身型“枭龙”战机的整体性能和综合作战能力大幅提升。
相对于此前已成功首飞的“枭龙”01架.03架.04架飞机属平台状态的“升级隐身版”，着重于对飞机机体的研制，主要用于支持试飞、保障飞行安全而 言，05架“枭龙”战机达到可实用交付的全状态，完全可以称之为“超级隐身完整版”。
业内人士称，隐形YFC-1E“枭龙”战机全状态成功首飞指日可待
它将为该飞机的批量生产奠定了坚实基础，是中国先进航空武器装备研制取得的又一重大成果，标志着中国航空工业实现新一代先进轻型隐身战斗机研发的新跨越。
stealth version of FC-1 is currently being develop.
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
like everything else he posts, there are no credibility behind these stories. Although, I am waiting to see what kind of changes they are planning on JF-17.
like everything else he posts, there are no credibility behind these stories. Although, I am waiting to see what kind of changes they are planning on JF-17.
Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
I have to agree wirh Meanbird and Tphuang. Reducing RCS by using paint, absorbing material or panels design... Possible. The Bison (Upgraded IAF Mig21Bis) has some of it. F16's have it. So why not adding some ideas to JF17. But I doubt they have a stealth version in mind. It needs totally new concept to go to that result.
We have to see first and personally I think J10B will have more of that then the cheaper medium/low tech brother. Everything comes with a price. As long you do not have internal weapons and huge fuel (2 engines, AESA etc etc) you just dream about it. JF17 certainly not falls in that category...
I have to agree wirh Meanbird and Tphuang. Reducing RCS by using paint, absorbing material or panels design... Possible. The Bison (Upgraded IAF Mig21Bis) has some of it. F16's have it. So why not adding some ideas to JF17. But I doubt they have a stealth version in mind. It needs totally new concept to go to that result.
We have to see first and personally I think J10B will have more of that then the cheaper medium/low tech brother. Everything comes with a price. As long you do not have internal weapons and huge fuel (2 engines, AESA etc etc) you just dream about it. JF17 certainly not falls in that category...
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Re: JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread 2009
Which I still stand by my statement JF-17, the purpose of the fighter is mean't to be cheap mass produce fighter. Aimed as low cost solution to replace large obsolete forces, and also an alternate source of fighters as to Western and Russian fighters. If its a stealth variant then the price will increase, so will the level in maintanance, complexity of operation. Which no longer meets the whole purpose of the JF-17. In which the J-10 will be far a more suitable platform to choose over, since it already as over 6 years of in service flight performance proving to be the PLAAF top dog fighter platform.
Which I still stand by my statement JF-17, the purpose of the fighter is mean't to be cheap mass produce fighter. Aimed as low cost solution to replace large obsolete forces, and also an alternate source of fighters as to Western and Russian fighters. If its a stealth variant then the price will increase, so will the level in maintanance, complexity of operation. Which no longer meets the whole purpose of the JF-17. In which the J-10 will be far a more suitable platform to choose over, since it already as over 6 years of in service flight performance proving to be the PLAAF top dog fighter platform.
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