PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

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That's a surprise. I always thought crobato was a man.
Well, I have to tip my hat to her. She's very technically advanced for a lady.

:nana::nana::nana:

Are you serious? It's just a typo. :D
 
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Here are some reasons I came across at the Key Publishing Naval Sub-Forum -
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so the reason in both cases is that 094 is larger? I think from our previous analysis, 094 is not really that much longer than 093. It is taller due to the missiles, but it's really not that much longer.
 

Hyperwarp

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so the reason in both cases is that 094 is larger? I think from our previous analysis, 094 is not really that much longer than 093. It is taller due to the missiles, but it's really not that much longer.

What are the actual/official specification for 093 & 094? Other than a select few I don't think anyone outside knows. It is possible that the 094 has more advance quietening measures than the 093. After all if it going to be part of the critical second strike roll then stealth is of utmost importance. I wouldn't be surprised if the 094 is quieter than the 093.

Off-course, this is just my personal view.....I just don't think that because the 093 is smaller automatically make it quieter......
 

crobato

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Bigger makes the sub quieter, not the other way around. Bigger sub allows more room for insulation, more opportunities to stop and absorb sound. To take an analogy, bigger cars sound quieter than smaller cars.
 

pla101prc

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Do you seriously have nothing better to do than speculating on Crobato's gender? Stay on topic.

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What are the actual/official specification for 093 & 094? Other than a select few I don't think anyone outside knows. It is possible that the 094 has more advance quietening measures than the 093. After all if it going to be part of the critical second strike roll then stealth is of utmost importance. I wouldn't be surprised if the 094 is quieter than the 093.

Off-course, this is just my personal view.....I just don't think that because the 093 is smaller automatically make it quieter......
I am not saying 093 is quieter because it's smaller. Generally speaking, larger submarines of the same generation are quieter because you have more to absorb the sound. However, it's also the idea that SSBN of the same generation is louder than SSN as in the case 091 and 092, because one has to fit additional equipment for SLBM and the other one doesn't.
 

Hyperwarp

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I am not saying 093 is quieter because it's smaller. Generally speaking, larger submarines of the same generation are quieter because you have more to absorb the sound. However, it's also the idea that SSBN of the same generation is louder than SSN as in the case 091 and 092, because one has to fit additional equipment for SLBM and the other one doesn't.

If the 092 is louder then the 091 and the 094 has not gone through any radical changes to reduce noise compared to the 093, then obviously yes. 094 is probably louder. Time will tell I guess.
 

maozedong

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again rumour, believe what you will
095正在北方某地建造呢,明年的这个时候出来。定位为巡航导弹核潜艇,首批两艘,动力系统为高温堆+高能电池组+某型发电机+泵喷,武器外挂,650MM鱼雷发射管配备超空泡鱼雷,线导鱼雷和某仿制版尾流自导鱼雷,共形声纳,同时配有高清晰数字海图包括重力海图(不同比例的海图无缝拼接),光学陀螺仪,水文状况实时修正系统和水文与世界各舰艇的声纹数据库。当然还有组织狼群战术的蓝绿激光通讯和与地面长波电台通过电离层和地幔进行的极低频通讯。此外,像线谱探测技术和高分辨率的声纳阵列可以远距离发现目标,某单位从白俄罗斯引进了焊接机,采用了国产最型多轴数控机床,加工精度比以往有了很多的提高,对加工出的标准件焊缝进行探伤,发现误差小于预期。噪音在100分贝左右,发动机零功率输出时,噪音极佳
says that 095 is under construction in North (this I'm pretty sure is true from previous sources in Huludao), it will come out sometime next year and be a cruise missile nuclear submarine (SSGN?). Initial batch has 2 units, uses high temperature gas-cooled reactor, high energy battery pack, certain electric generator, pumpjet propulsion, 650 mm torpedo (can launch shkval type torpedo, wire guided torpedo, some cloned wake homing torpedo), conformal sonar, HD digital nautical charts, optical gyroscope, hydrological conditions real-time correction system, DB with world's different ship's accoustic signature. It says it uses blue-green laser communication and long-wave radio station through the ionosphere and upper mantle to the very low frequency communication. It says that uses newest tooling systems, much higher welding standard and such. noise level is at 100 db.
 

challenge

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again rumour, believe what you will

says that 095 is under construction in North (this I'm pretty sure is true from previous sources in Huludao), it will come out sometime next year and be a cruise missile nuclear submarine (SSGN?). Initial batch has 2 units, uses high temperature gas-cooled reactor, high energy battery pack, certain electric generator, pumpjet propulsion, 650 mm torpedo (can launch shkval type torpedo, wire guided torpedo, some cloned wake homing torpedo), conformal sonar, HD digital nautical charts, optical gyroscope, hydrological conditions real-time correction system, DB with world's different ship's accoustic signature. It says it uses blue-green laser communication and long-wave radio station through the ionosphere and upper mantle to the very low frequency communication. It says that uses newest tooling systems, much higher welding standard and such. noise level is at 100 db.

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