Mate, I am a SH native. Every single one of those listed is patently untrue. I have these shitlibs in my extended family.
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There are netizens' memes about Shanghai, which partially correspond to reality. I would advise you take a look at the Shanghai based media, online, TV and newspapers. A lot more liberal vibe than what you'll find in the rest of China. Even Guancha media has a lot of liberal voices, I don't mean the Op-ed.
Shanghai shitlibs are a well known phenomenon.
The solution is the same as Hong Kong, make them realise there's nothing inherently superior about their city and they can be replaced if needed.
Cut down Shanghai to size and distribute a bit of land to Zhejiang and Jiangsu, take over Shanghai SOEs like SAIC, promote Shenzhen for finance etc
The solution is the same as Hong Kong, make them realise there's nothing inherently superior about their city and they can be replaced if needed.
Cut down Shanghai to size and distribute a bit of land to Zhejiang and Jiangsu, take over Shanghai SOEs like SAIC, promote Shenzhen for finance etc
The whole “Shanghai Independence” thing is getting blown out of portion for sure. It is a none issue, but it could become one if grossly mismanaged.
However, neoliberalism is a widely held and practices way of life in Shanghai. It is true that Shanghainese on average are wealthier, plus lots of China’s corrupt elites use Shanghai and HK are places to store their wealth before shipping them abroad. Shanghai is also the headquarter of many western MNCs, so elite liberal western men also comprise small but highly influential population in the city. Then you have historical memories of Shanghai being extremely hard hit by the Cultural Revolution, so most Shanghainese hate Mao. Mao literally purged Shanghai due to the city’s ties to KMT elites and western influence. When you combine all these factors together, you see a city that is much more cosmopolitan and pro-west, pro-neoliberalism, whilst Shanghainese have a sense of superiority over the rest of China due to their supposed closer connection with the west, particularly Britain, US, and France. However, such pro-west, pro-capital, and pro-liberalism do mean that Shanghainese want independence from China. Far from it.
Why would purging a few traitors in Shanghai eliminate development? Shenzhen was the original SEZ and is doing fine. It is right next to Hong Kong, yet they have far less problems with ridiculous political idiots than Shanghai.
In fact Shanghaiers often whine so much about how Huawei is bad, DJI is trash, BYD is copy, etc. And yet all of these are Shenzhen enterprises.
How do I feel save if I can’t even get food? Or once supplies do arrive, I have to bribe my neighborhood committee to just get a bite? Or my entire family forced into a concentration camp simply because my neighbor is sick? How would you feel if someone dress up like a klansman, kill your dog, and forcefully drag your entire family into a quarantine camp? I am assure you that you will stop being a pinkie once 社会的主义铁拳 teaches you a hard lesson, and you will realise that you have been nothing other than a 韭菜 waiting to be harvested by 赵家人.
In some countries people can get shot in their own homes by trigger happy cops while a few miles away, cops allow stores to be looted while they're sitting in a patrol car in front of the store because they're on coffee break.
They can say only 64 people died while 3000 are missing from a hurricane. Then take almost 10 years to clean up.
But if you criticize them even 1%:
"Go back your country"
"You wanna find out why we don't have free healthcare?"
"Fuck around and find out."
Compared to that Chinese are exceptionally rational.
For those of you who believe that Shanghai is an uber-liberal or pro-West or separatist city. Show me two pictures of Shanghainese people, living in Shanghai, physically doing one of the following.
In fact, I've never met a single mainland Chinese person who did any of the above. Maybe there are some in Xinjiang or Tibet.
- Defacing the Chinese flag
- Waving an American flag out of love for the West. (Doing so as part of their job duty - e.g. diplomatic events, filming education videos - doesn't count.)
In fact, I've never met a single mainland Chinese person who did any of the above. Maybe there are some in Xinjiang or Tibet.
I'm confused. Are you speaking from experience of being a black man in America? Because all those points you made are exactly what African Americans go through on a daily basis.