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Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
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Well, it is true that fertility rate has collapsed in China similar to those of South Korea. If you insist that it was the CIA's PSYOP, then I guess the CIA has done a perfect job turning Chinese women against Chinese men (look up the name Leta Hong Fincher), just like the Megalia feminists completely devastating South Korea's youth population in the upcoming decades. Who's blame is it when neither the South Korean government nor the CCP took notice of the radical feminist threat seriously, which was based on lies and trumped-up charges against supposed macho patriarchy. Whilst feminism is supposed to give women more opportunities in work places and universities (as done properly in Western countries), feminism in South Korea and China has to led toxic family relations and utter destruction of birthrate. There are simply no solution to this issue (maybe immigration for females workers from friendly countries, I guess).

As with China's hyper competitive society, 996 is still illegal. It is an outright violation of China's own labour contract law. However, the government is powerless to stop the 996 practice because everyone is doing it. Now you have situation where there is a total disregard for labour rights amid a collective disregard for the law. It is average citizens who pay the price since they have no life outside of work. People who are worked to death are simply seen as the necessary sacrifices for progress, while well-connected bureaucratic capitalists continue to enjoy their party membership and secretly move their quasi-legal assets abroad. And the families of these bureaucratic capitalists could avoid the hyper competition of China by enjoying genuine liberal democracy in the US, Australia, and Canada as rich kids living in huge mansions. Call it social darwinism in its most sadistic and lawless form.

I am not saying that China will collapse, but clearly it is far from being a "harmonious society" championed by CCP leaders. It is extremely tough to make a living in China as a joe average citizen (especially young Chinese men without somewhat well-to-do parents), unless you are one of those predatory elites who are party members, whilst your privileged families move overseas to become the most ardent supporters of neoliberal policies in order to protect your often illicit properties.
Your INCORRECT assertion that South Korea and China's fertility level ARE THE SAME IS FALSE.

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How is 0.81 bpw similar or equal to 1.16 bpw?
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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Well, it is true that fertility rate has collapsed in China similar to those of South Korea. If you insist that it was the CIA's PSYOP, then I guess the CIA has done a perfect job turning Chinese women against Chinese men (look up the name Leta Hong Fincher), just like the Megalia feminists completely devastating South Korea's youth population in the upcoming decades. Who's blame is it when neither the South Korean government nor the CCP took notice of the radical feminist threat seriously, which was based on lies and trumped-up charges against supposed macho patriarchy. Whilst feminism is supposed to give women more opportunities in work places and universities (as done properly in Western countries), feminism in South Korea and China has to led toxic family relations and utter destruction of birthrate. There are simply no solution to this issue (maybe immigration for females workers from friendly countries, I guess).

As with China's hyper competitive society, 996 is still illegal. It is an outright violation of China's own labour contract law. However, the government is powerless to stop the 996 practice because everyone is doing it. Now you have situation where there is a total disregard for labour rights amid a collective disregard for the law. It is average citizens who pay the price since they have no life outside of work. People who are worked to death are simply seen as the necessary sacrifices for progress, while well-connected bureaucratic capitalists continue to enjoy their party membership and secretly move their quasi-legal assets abroad. And the families of these bureaucratic capitalists could avoid the hyper competition of China by enjoying genuine liberal democracy in the US, Australia, and Canada as rich kids living in huge mansions. Call it social darwinism in its most sadistic and lawless form.

I am not saying that China will collapse, but clearly it is far from being a "harmonious society" championed by CCP leaders. It is extremely tough to make a living in China as a joe average citizen (especially young Chinese men without somewhat well-to-do parents), unless you are one of those predatory elites who are party members, whilst your privileged families move overseas to become the most ardent supporters of neoliberal policies in order to protect your often illicit properties.
actually the west is also experiencing significant gender conflict.

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As more Americans
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and the #MeToo movement
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, nearly half of U.S. adults – and a majority of women – say that dating has become harder in the last 10 years.

Among those who are on the dating market – the 15% of American adults who are single and looking for a committed relationship or casual dates – most say they are dissatisfied with their dating lives and that it has been difficult to find people to date, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in October 2019.

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Marriage rates are
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More young people are delaying or avoiding dating altogether.
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recently found that 1 in 4 40-year-old American adults have never been married. Parenthood is viewed with much greater apprehension among young people than it once was.

Young women express growing reservations about starting families, and many believe marriage benefits them less than it does men.
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found that less than half (45 percent) of young women (age 18 to 34) without children say they still want to have kids at some point in the future. Among young men, nearly 6 in 10 (57%) report that they want to be fathers.

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And no, it isn't "Asian incels".

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Kelvin104

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...feminism in South Korea and China has to led toxic family relations and utter destruction of birthrate...

...As with China's hyper competitive society, 996 is still illegal. It is an outright violation of China's own labour contract law. However, the government is powerless to stop the 996 practice because everyone is doing it...
On the bright side, China has surely become a developed country, now that it has "first world problems" instead of "third world problems".
 
As with China's hyper competitive society, 996 is still illegal. It is an outright violation of China's own labour contract law. However, the government is powerless to stop the 996 practice because everyone is doing it. Now you have situation where there is a total disregard for labour rights amid a collective disregard for the law. It is average citizens who pay the price since they have no life outside of work.
If something could be done to lower the prevalence of 996, that would be great. If you have any potential solutions, please share with us. The reality is as you mention, "everyone is doing it." China shares the same East Asian culture as Korea/Japan, and the same hypercompetitive society. How do you expect China to solve 996 while Korea and Japan have been doing it for a much longer period of time and have yet to find a way to decrease working hours? Korea has tried legislation as well, to no avail. Compared to China, 996 is a little more tolerable in Japan (just not for the liver) since a large portion of it now just consists of drinking yourself into a stupor with your coworkers, but 996 is even worse in Korea. Korea and Japan also happen to be the main competitors of China in a diverse range of different industries and markets, making it even harder for Chinese firms to ease up on 996 while the Koreans/Japanese are still doing it.
It is extremely tough to make a living in China as a joe average citizen (especially young Chinese men without somewhat well-to-do parents), unless you are one of those predatory elites who are party members
Welcome to capitalism. Would you rather China revert back to socialism? There are only two types of countries in the world. In the first type, the only way to be wealthy is to be born wealthy. In the second type, the only way to be wealthy is to be born wealthy, or alternatively work extremely hard. There is no country in the world where you can be born not wealthy and become well off by just working at a moderate pace. This utopia you imagine where people can work 35-40 hours a week and not have to worry about money doesn't exist in the real world (outside exceptions that tend to be tiny nations with extreme amounts of natural resource wealth). The US only seems less competitive when viewed from an Asian perspective. Even in the US, except for an ever shrinking middle stratum of the population, people have to work far more than 40 hours per week. If you want to be able to be a homeowner, not live paycheck to paycheck, and not worry about retirement in the US, you are going to be working much more than 40 hours per week. There are also tens of millions of Americans working much more than 40 hours per week just to barely get by.
 

jiajia99

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Well, it is true that fertility rate has collapsed in China similar to those of South Korea. If you insist that it was the CIA's PSYOP, then I guess the CIA has done a perfect job turning Chinese women against Chinese men (look up the name Leta Hong Fincher), just like the Megalia feminists completely devastating South Korea's youth population in the upcoming decades. Who's blame is it when neither the South Korean government nor the CCP took notice of the radical feminist threat seriously, which was based on lies and trumped-up charges against supposed macho patriarchy. Whilst feminism is supposed to give women more opportunities in work places and universities (as done properly in Western countries), feminism in South Korea and China has to led toxic family relations and utter destruction of birthrate. There are simply no solution to this issue (maybe immigration for females workers from friendly countries, I guess).

As with China's hyper competitive society, 996 is still illegal. It is an outright violation of China's own labour contract law. However, the government is powerless to stop the 996 practice because everyone is doing it. Now you have situation where there is a total disregard for labour rights amid a collective disregard for the law. It is average citizens who pay the price since they have no life outside of work. People who are worked to death are simply seen as the necessary sacrifices for progress, while well-connected bureaucratic capitalists continue to enjoy their party membership and secretly move their quasi-legal assets abroad. And the families of these bureaucratic capitalists could avoid the hyper competition of China by enjoying genuine liberal democracy in the US, Australia, and Canada as rich kids living in huge mansions. Call it social darwinism in its most sadistic and lawless form.

I am not saying that China will collapse, but clearly it is far from being a "harmonious society" championed by CCP leaders. It is extremely tough to make a living in China as a joe average citizen (especially young Chinese men without somewhat well-to-do parents), unless you are one of those predatory elites who are party members, whilst your privileged families move overseas to become the most ardent supporters of neoliberal policies in order to protect your often illicit properties.
You awfully negative for the most part in Chinas prospects in regards to focusing on the negatives all the time. China is a big country and trying to argue for China to become a western democracy when we compare the satisfaction and economy status compared to the rest of the western world speaks volumes is only going to convince me that you simply want China to fail and become a puppet state of Washington.

Why does China need to change what is working to what simply isn’t working is beyond me other then you simply hating China and are just trying to convince others like a broken record that you know better then all of those economic ministers in China that has managed to fend off every single trade move done by the US to damage China. What you preach makes no sense at all and I will wager that if the USA ends up becoming a failed state while China is still rising after 2-3 years in the future, then you simply are no better then Sepentaza from YouTube who’s only value is to pander to the racist without contributing anything to the world.

The CIA can spread nonsense on China but is simply beyond worthless in protecting the USA (which is supposed to be why they are there instead of defending every single whim of the elite that care nothing at all about the people in the US) and is in fact contributing to its down fall when you consider all the nations they are pissing off all over the world. There is no greater stupidity then this and unless you are a professional that can actually demonstrate actually understanding in geopolitical policy, it’s probably better to leave this to the professionals to actually run things because as of now China is rising, and the US sinking, all of which that can be justified by the growth statistics and happiness as shown before. Any further talk on any minor items mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

I don’t normally like to reply like this but this back and forth that has last multiple pages is getting a like ridiculous don’t you think?
 

Serb

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Hahaha, military global suparpowa Murica 2024. Virtually generated gazillions of GDPs and military budgets are useless if you can't buy anything with it (low supply + oligarchy = high prices).







You can't invest in industries of strategic national interests when you don't control most of the available investing capital as a state.

Unlike in China, the US has to really mostly on private investment, whereas China has extensive public investing mechanisms.

Go on and convince some Wall Street capitalist to invest in something unprofitable initially, or with a lower relative rate of return, or uncertain prospects, but for the sake of national interest, impossible.

That's why they want China to start 'consuming' more, have less SOE activity, etc, so they would have less capital for strategic invt.






 
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FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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If something could be done to lower the prevalence of 996, that would be great. If you have any potential solutions, please share with us. The reality is as you mention, "everyone is doing it." China shares the same East Asian culture as Korea/Japan, and the same hypercompetitive society. How do you expect China to solve 996 while Korea and Japan have been doing it for a much longer period of time and have yet to find a way to decrease working hours? Korea has tried legislation as well, to no avail. Compared to China, 996 is a little more tolerable in Japan (just not for the liver) since a large portion of it now just consists of drinking yourself into a stupor with your coworkers, but 996 is even worse in Korea. Korea and Japan also happen to be the main competitors of China in a diverse range of different industries and markets, making it even harder for Chinese firms to ease up on 996 while the Koreans/Japanese are still doing it.

Welcome to capitalism. Would you rather China revert back to socialism? There are only two types of countries in the world. In the first type, the only way to be wealthy is to be born wealthy. In the second type, the only way to be wealthy is to be born wealthy, or alternatively work extremely hard. There is no country in the world where you can be born not wealthy and become well off by just working at a moderate pace. This utopia you imagine where people can work 35-40 hours a week and not have to worry about money doesn't exist in the real world (outside exceptions that tend to be tiny nations with extreme amounts of natural resource wealth). The US only seems less competitive when viewed from an Asian perspective. Even in the US, except for an ever shrinking middle stratum of the population, people have to work far more than 40 hours per week. If you want to be able to be a homeowner, not live paycheck to paycheck, and not worry about retirement in the US, you are going to be working much more than 40 hours per week. There are also tens of millions of Americans working much more than 40 hours per week just to barely get by.
I must point out that China has a far lower suicide rate than Japan, South Korea and most western countries.

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China's is comparable to Southeast Asian countries like Malaysia and Vietnam. On the map there is the "northern depression belt" of Russia, northern Europe, NA, South Korea and Japan. Then there's the green "chill tropical zone". China's in the chill tropical zone.

So if people are sooooo depressed and negative why is it not being reflected in suicide rates?
 
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