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siegecrossbow

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The days of CCP corruption is about to be revealed by western intelligence.

The west loves them Chinese so much that it'll even helped out the government track down the corrupt officials and excess. They helped China fast track it's industrialization, semiconductor indigenisation, military modernization, real estate deleveraging.

I don't know why western intelligence couldn't place the same practice especially about corruption against their own political masters.

Because you get Boeinged if you try.
 

ironborn

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The days of CCP corruption is about to be revealed by western intelligence.

The west loves them Chinese so much that it'll even helped out the government track down the corrupt officials and excess. They helped China fast track it's industrialization, semiconductor indigenisation, military modernization, real estate deleveraging.

I don't know why western intelligence couldn't place the same practice especially about corruption against their own political masters.
The Washington Times is owned by Operations Holdings, which is a subsidiary of the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity. TWT Holdings LLC, a subsidiary of Operations Holdings, Inc., owns The Washington Times LLC, the publisher of the newspaper. The Unification Church movement is associated with the holding company

That's all we need to know how credible the news are on this trash rag.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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The Washington Times is owned by Operations Holdings, which is a subsidiary of the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity. TWT Holdings LLC, a subsidiary of Operations Holdings, Inc., owns The Washington Times LLC, the publisher of the newspaper. The Unification Church movement is associated with the holding company

That's all we need to know how credible the news are on this trash rag.
That's a stupid/cultist SOUTH KOREAN CRAZY CHURCH. Also known as the MOONIES.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I was clueless who Xi was and what's he accomplished before he became the chosen successor to Hu Jintao. My ex-gf who seemed to dislike Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao for whatever reasons (ex father was a provincial level leader on one of China's province but was removed from his post due to corruption i.e. womanizing). Perhaps she disliked them for corruption linked activities that I am not familiar with as I have not been intimately familiar with the politics of China until Trump came into the scene. She however really liked, no LOVE Pres. Xi. It wasn't until I read the CIA intelligence insights about the man (citing that Xi was INCORRUPTIBLE) that made me a strong supporter of the man. Not to mention that it was his push for Chinese modern military modernization from the establishment of the 5 theatre command, the intelligentization, MIC 2025, dual circulation....he saw the need for China to become self-sufficient and self-reliant when most of the Chinese industry were more than willing and blinded to western industries.
Even some Indian military leaders acknowledged Pres. Xi's military vision and boldness in terms of what he's managed to push and accomplish with the PLA. Here's recently retired in 2022 and on this talk he has openly praise and perhaps even has a grudging respect for China/PLA/CPC and Pres.Xi.

It is rare to actually hear from any Indian officer(s) to acknowledge any advantage from China especially with respect to its military. So it was a pleasant surprise that there are some Indian officers who try to be as objective with their views on the PLA and leadership other than Capt. Pravin (India Force magazine).

His appraisal of Pres. Xi starts at 20:56 of the video.

 

supercat

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To be honest, I am quite pessimistic. It is hard to predict what will come after Xi. Xi's problems are all well-known, so I am not going to repeat them here, but he somehow managed to prevent the ship from sinking. The judgement day for China as a whole could arrive on the day he retires or passes away in office. He has concentrated so much power in his own hands that his sudden disappearance could lead to lots of uncertainty. That's when you see groups like Shanghai-based financial fat cats (often sons and daughters of well-connected party elites), "liberal" intellectuals, journalists, radical feminists, and other so-called "liberals" within the CCP ganging up against the Xi establishment currently comprised of the military industrial complex, scientists, telecommunication giants, other national security organs, etc. There will likely be a country-wide power struggle and very chaotic street-level violence like Hong Kong in 2019, as both sides (or multiple sides) try to stir-up protesters on their behalf. And of course, you will surely have foreign interventions in the forms of back money and intelligence operations. Even fools would know that the financial fat cats in China would collude with foreign intelligence services and MNCs to limit the power of the CCP to point where those fat cats could continue to exploit the cheap labour in China whilst not paying their tax. God know what would happen when it all ends.

On the side note, something extremely sick is going on with people's values in China nowadays:
1. Middle class Chinese are now spending massive amount of money to try to cross into the U.S. via Mexico, risking everything despite absolutely no guarantee of being able to find a job in the U.S.
2. 996 work culture persists despite labor law clearly making it illegal. With the 996 work culture, employees are burnt out and have no family time at all. In other words, both employers and employees are violating the labor laws just to squeeze the last bits of pennies in cut-throat competitions. Current labour laws are literally impossible to implement since EVERYONE is violating them.
3. Toxic competition and back stabbings in both academic and professional settings called 内卷.
4. Urban young Chinese women (mostly daughters of well-to-do elites) refuse to marry and have babies with Chinese men. When they marry foreign men, they demand no bride price, but when approach by their Chinese counterparts, they demand exorbitant bride price in the name of "feminism". This social phenomenon (call it gender war, if you like) is arguably impossible to fix.
5. While the government hopes to resuscitate the collapsing birth rate, there are little mechanism in place to support pregnant women, and single mothers and fathers. Of course this can relatively easy to fix by increasing welfare coverage.
6. All of these problems, along with others, are making people extremely social darwinian in their beliefs. If you lose your job or your company get driven out of business, nobody would sympathize with you since it is "natural selection" of the fittest.
7. The richest people all try to transfer their assets abroad with the hope to tax avoidance. If you think American companies and Wall Street are kings of tax avoidance, you need to travel to Shanghai and actually talk to Shanghai business elites.

All of them are China's persistent vulnerabilities. Should China undergo democratic transitions, these issues could easily derail the transition and turn the country upside down.
These read like a problem list trumped up by some famous China doomers. I see three main thrusts: 1. China has a hyper-competitive society; 2. China doesn't have a proper political succession mechanism in place; 3. China faces some demographic headwind. For 1, I don't see why it's really a problem, except because of it, some people want to emigrate, and others, many criminals and debtors among them, are willing to use the well-established commercial trafficking routes to enter the US illegally. In the Deng era, the West insisted that China would collapse after Deng's death because of problem 2. It did not happen, because of China's meritocracy. As for low birth rate, I don't think it's severe enough to change China's trajectory.


The days of CCP corruption is about to be revealed by western intelligence.

The west loves them Chinese so much that it'll even helped out the government track down the corrupt officials and excess. They helped China fast track it's industrialization, semiconductor indigenisation, military modernization, real estate deleveraging.

I don't know why western intelligence couldn't place the same practice especially about corruption against their own political masters.
Information from US intelligence = PSYOP by CIA. Who will believe their gaslighting in this day and age? They are just desperate after the flops of Hong Kong riots and Xinjiang genocide, and facing their impending failures of trade and tech wars against China.

They would not have been born had Chinese not saved their grandfathers.
 

jiajia99

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In that case, I suppose China will certainly go into outright collapse, balkanize, and plunge the entire population into yet another Century of Humiliation real soon - Or worse, the ultimate destruction of the entire Chinese civilization.

Am I correct? Especially @ChongqingHotPot92 and @FairAndUnbiased.

I'm serious here.
Somehow, I am convinced that they simply cannot see reason no matter how often you try to explain it to them. They are less like debaters and more like high function trolls that use whatever statistic no matter how useless to make any kind of point that supports their world view, no matter now silly it may be. I am amazed that this sort of stuff have literally extended for so many pages of posts just because a number of people here seems to let them do so. Simply consider them as patients from a mental ward and leave it be because to be serious, sorting through what is informative and what is clutter designed to counter their post which will fall on deaf years is getting a little over the top to put it mildly
 

Bellum_Romanum

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These read like a problem list trumped up by some famous China doomers. I see three main thrusts: 1. China has a hyper-competitive society; 2. China doesn't have a proper political succession mechanism in place; 3. China faces some demographic headwind. For 1, I don't see why it's really a problem, except because of it, some people want to emigrate, and others, many criminals and debtors among them, are willing to use the well-established commercial trafficking routes to enter the US illegally. In the Deng era, the West insisted that China would collapse after Deng's death because of problem 2. It did not happen, because of China's meritocracy. As for low birth rate, I don't think it's severe enough to change China's trajectory.


Information from US intelligence = PSYOP by CIA. Who will believe their gaslighting in this day and age? They are just desperate after the flops of Hong Kong riots and Xinjiang genocide, and facing their impending failures of trade and tech wars against China.

They would not have been born had Chinese not saved their grandfathers.
The CIA INTELLIGENCE pertaining to Pres. Xi's profile WAS CLASSIFIED THAT WAS LEAKED VIA WIKILEAKS. The information is still available online if am not mistaken
 
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