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[canonicalsadhu]

China's political leaders have to climb a rigorously assessed and monitored meritocratic ladder, and only the best among the officials can reach the upper and top echelon of the CPC.
a young promising official starts at the county level, and rises progressively through major city and then provincial level and by the time he or she reaches the upper rung, he or she has reached a certain age. the process takes time for the official to gain administrative experience, it is as it is, no short-cut is possible.

Well aware of the process, I just think there should much more people in their 40/50s in the central committee. Xi himself was in his 40s when he ascended to the central committee and became party chief of Zhejiang. It just seems to me that the current crop of leaders is unusually old.

 

[Randomuser]

Indians crossing into the US and trying to infiltrate into every other country would indicate big problems in India instead.

But that clearly cannot be because India is a superpower and 56 inch chest Modi-ji has fixed everything. Everyone is also a CEO there.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

To be honest, I am quite pessimistic. It is hard to predict what will come after Xi. Xi's problems are all well-known, so I am not going to repeat them here, but he somehow managed to prevent the ship from sinking. The judgement day for China as a whole could arrive on the day he retires or passes away in office. He has concentrated so much power in his own hands that his sudden disappearance could lead to lots of uncertainty. That's when you see groups like Shanghai-based financial fat cats (often sons and daughters of well-connected party elites), "liberal" intellectuals, journalists, radical feminists, and other so-called "liberals" within the CCP ganging up against the Xi establishment currently comprised of the military industrial complex, scientists, telecommunication giants, other national security organs, etc. There will likely be a country-wide power struggle and very chaotic street-level violence like Hong Kong in 2019, as both sides (or multiple sides) try to stir-up protesters on their behalf. And of course, you will surely have foreign interventions in the forms of back money and intelligence operations. Even fools would know that the financial fat cats in China would collude with foreign intelligence services and MNCs to limit the power of the CCP to point where those fat cats could continue to exploit the cheap labour in China whilst not paying their tax. God know what would happen when it all ends.

On the side note, something extremely sick is going on with people's values in China nowadays:
1. Middle class Chinese are now spending massive amount of money to try to cross into the U.S. via Mexico, risking everything despite absolutely no guarantee of being able to find a job in the U.S.
2. 996 work culture persists despite labor law clearly making it illegal. With the 996 work culture, employees are burnt out and have no family time at all. In other words, both employers and employees are violating the labor laws just to squeeze the last bits of pennies in cut-throat competitions. Current labour laws are literally impossible to implement since EVERYONE is violating them.
3. Toxic competition and back stabbings in both academic and professional settings called 内卷.
4. Urban young Chinese women (mostly daughters of well-to-do elites) refuse to marry and have babies with Chinese men. When they marry foreign men, they demand no bride price, but when approach by their Chinese counterparts, they demand exorbitant bride price in the name of "feminism". This social phenomenon (call it gender war, if you like) is arguably impossible to fix.
5. While the government hopes to resuscitate the collapsing birth rate, there are little mechanism in place to support pregnant women, and single mothers and fathers. Of course this can relatively easy to fix by increasing welfare coverage.
6. All of these problems, along with others, are making people extremely social darwinian in their beliefs. If you lose your job or your company get driven out of business, nobody would sympathize with you since it is "natural selection" of the fittest.
7. The richest people all try to transfer their assets abroad with the hope to tax avoidance. If you think American companies and Wall Street are kings of tax avoidance, you need to travel to Shanghai and actually talk to Shanghai business elites.

All of them are China's persistent vulnerabilities. Should China undergo democratic transitions, these issues could easily derail the transition and turn the country upside down.

Man, it seems that all the U.S. and the west needs to do is to WAIT XI OUT OF OFFICE and all of their China dilemma would be solved. I mean, the people in China are essentially cannibalizing each other with no sense of country, duty, patriotism, family other than make money and selling oneself to foreign interests and women whoring themselves with foreign men.

What a pathetically weak and soulless of a country China is that the west need not worry about its supposed rise since it'll never be able to reach its potential and promise when all the critical structures are decaying held only by the son of a former high ranking CCP official that fell out of favour from Chairman Mao.

The 10 year window Master Zeihan gave China is just about the correct number then. Eat your heart out commies.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780095852209471962

The days of CCP corruption is about to be revealed by western intelligence.

The west loves them Chinese so much that it'll even helped out the government track down the corrupt officials and excess. They helped China fast track it's industrialization, semiconductor indigenisation, military modernization, real estate deleveraging.

I don't know why western intelligence couldn't place the same practice especially about corruption against their own political masters.

 

[A potato]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780095852209471962

The days of CCP corruption is about to be revealed by western intelligence.

The west loves them Chinese so much that it'll even helped out the government track down the corrupt officials and excess. They helped China fast track it's industrialization, semiconductor indigenisation, military modernization, real estate deleveraging.

I don't know why western intelligence couldn't place the same practice especially about corruption against their own political masters.

Because western “intelligence “ is an oxymoron.

 

[Phead128]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780095852209471962

The days of CCP corruption is about to be revealed by western intelligence.

The west loves them Chinese so much that it'll even helped out the government track down the corrupt officials and excess. They helped China fast track it's industrialization, semiconductor indigenisation, military modernization, real estate deleveraging.

I don't know why western intelligence couldn't place the same practice especially about corruption against their own political masters.

It's a Western report for a Western audience to compensate for the "Winning" China has been experiencing. If they truly want to compete with China, rooting out corruption in US congress would be the first start.

China - simultaenously a pacing menacing threat to global hegemony and fragile monolith at risk of collapsing any day now - the true paradox of fascist-style anti-China propaganda.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

To be honest, I am quite pessimistic. It is hard to predict what will come after Xi. Xi's problems are all well-known, so I am not going to repeat them here, but he somehow managed to prevent the ship from sinking. The judgement day for China as a whole could arrive on the day he retires or passes away in office. He has concentrated so much power in his own hands that his sudden disappearance could lead to lots of uncertainty. That's when you see groups like Shanghai-based financial fat cats (often sons and daughters of well-connected party elites), "liberal" intellectuals, journalists, radical feminists, and other so-called "liberals" within the CCP ganging up against the Xi establishment currently comprised of the military industrial complex, scientists, telecommunication giants, other national security organs, etc. There will likely be a country-wide power struggle and very chaotic street-level violence like Hong Kong in 2019, as both sides (or multiple sides) try to stir-up protesters on their behalf. And of course, you will surely have foreign interventions in the forms of back money and intelligence operations. Even fools would know that the financial fat cats in China would collude with foreign intelligence services and MNCs to limit the power of the CCP to point where those fat cats could continue to exploit the cheap labour in China whilst not paying their tax. God know what would happen when it all ends.

On the side note, something extremely sick is going on with people's values in China nowadays:
1. Middle class Chinese are now spending massive amount of money to try to cross into the U.S. via Mexico, risking everything despite absolutely no guarantee of being able to find a job in the U.S.
2. 996 work culture persists despite labor law clearly making it illegal. With the 996 work culture, employees are burnt out and have no family time at all. In other words, both employers and employees are violating the labor laws just to squeeze the last bits of pennies in cut-throat competitions. Current labour laws are literally impossible to implement since EVERYONE is violating them.
3. Toxic competition and back stabbings in both academic and professional settings called 内卷.
4. Urban young Chinese women (mostly daughters of well-to-do elites) refuse to marry and have babies with Chinese men. When they marry foreign men, they demand no bride price, but when approach by their Chinese counterparts, they demand exorbitant bride price in the name of "feminism". This social phenomenon (call it gender war, if you like) is arguably impossible to fix.
5. While the government hopes to resuscitate the collapsing birth rate, there are little mechanism in place to support pregnant women, and single mothers and fathers. Of course this can relatively easy to fix by increasing welfare coverage.
6. All of these problems, along with others, are making people extremely social darwinian in their beliefs. If you lose your job or your company get driven out of business, nobody would sympathize with you since it is "natural selection" of the fittest.
7. The richest people all try to transfer their assets abroad with the hope to tax avoidance. If you think American companies and Wall Street are kings of tax avoidance, you need to travel to Shanghai and actually talk to Shanghai business elites.

All of them are China's persistent vulnerabilities. Should China undergo democratic transitions, these issues could easily derail the transition and turn the country upside down.

The problem is that 1 side has all the guns in this case, since Xi already got the MIC, military, police and legal system on his side. And all the people with the guns also know that if they give up without a fight, they will all be 清算ed. So they have no incentive to give up.

To be honest, I am quite pessimistic. It is hard to predict what will come after Xi. Xi's problems are all well-known, so I am not going to repeat them here, but he somehow managed to prevent the ship from sinking. The judgement day for China as a whole could arrive on the day he retires or passes away in office. He has concentrated so much power in his own hands that his sudden disappearance could lead to lots of uncertainty. That's when you see groups like Shanghai-based financial fat cats (often sons and daughters of well-connected party elites), "liberal" intellectuals, journalists, radical feminists, and other so-called "liberals" within the CCP ganging up against the Xi establishment currently comprised of the military industrial complex, scientists, telecommunication giants, other national security organs, etc. There will likely be a country-wide power struggle and very chaotic street-level violence like Hong Kong in 2019, as both sides (or multiple sides) try to stir-up protesters on their behalf. And of course, you will surely have foreign interventions in the forms of back money and intelligence operations. Even fools would know that the financial fat cats in China would collude with foreign intelligence services and MNCs to limit the power of the CCP to point where those fat cats could continue to exploit the cheap labour in China whilst not paying their tax. God know what would happen when it all ends.

On the side note, something extremely sick is going on with people's values in China nowadays:
1. Middle class Chinese are now spending massive amount of money to try to cross into the U.S. via Mexico, risking everything despite absolutely no guarantee of being able to find a job in the U.S.
2. 996 work culture persists despite labor law clearly making it illegal. With the 996 work culture, employees are burnt out and have no family time at all. In other words, both employers and employees are violating the labor laws just to squeeze the last bits of pennies in cut-throat competitions. Current labour laws are literally impossible to implement since EVERYONE is violating them.
3. Toxic competition and back stabbings in both academic and professional settings called 内卷.
4. Urban young Chinese women (mostly daughters of well-to-do elites) refuse to marry and have babies with Chinese men. When they marry foreign men, they demand no bride price, but when approach by their Chinese counterparts, they demand exorbitant bride price in the name of "feminism". This social phenomenon (call it gender war, if you like) is arguably impossible to fix.
5. While the government hopes to resuscitate the collapsing birth rate, there are little mechanism in place to support pregnant women, and single mothers and fathers. Of course this can relatively easy to fix by increasing welfare coverage.
6. All of these problems, along with others, are making people extremely social darwinian in their beliefs. If you lose your job or your company get driven out of business, nobody would sympathize with you since it is "natural selection" of the fittest.
7. The richest people all try to transfer their assets abroad with the hope to tax avoidance. If you think American companies and Wall Street are kings of tax avoidance, you need to travel to Shanghai and actually talk to Shanghai business elites.

All of them are China's persistent vulnerabilities. Should China undergo democratic transitions, these issues could easily derail the transition and turn the country upside down.

should talk about this in the internal Chinese politics thread. I have more to say but it will derail this thread.

 

[siegecrossbow]

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

The problem is that 1 side has all the guns in this case, since Xi already got the MIC, military, police and legal system on his side. And all the people with the guns also know that if they give up without a fight, they will all be 清算ed. So they have no incentive to give up.

should talk about this in the internal Chinese politics thread. I have more to say but it will derail this thread.

I really find it PROBLEMATIC when some of us on this forum spews out opinion like they were unbridled facts that reflects the sentiment and picture of the entire country which is beyond ludicrous.

Every social studies conducted BY WESTERN ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS find that CHINESE people's TRUST and CONFIDENCE with their government is SOLID in contrast to many DEMOCRATIC countries in the west and around the world. Then there's the Edelman trust which measures not only people's trust in their government but of society. On this study or polling the Chinese yet again scores befuddlingly high contradicting the expert opinions people like @ChongqingHotPot92 expresses every now and then.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1777241101294031125

If the system is that fragile and volatile its even more amazing that China manage to achieve what it has achieve without equal in modern history. That achievement alone is worthy of respect and admiration for the CCP/CPC regardless of how the know-it-all feel or think otherwise.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

In that case, I suppose China will certainly go into outright collapse, balkanize, and plunge the entire population into yet another Century of Humiliation real soon - Or worse, the ultimate destruction of the entire Chinese civilization.

Am I correct? Especially @ChongqingHotPot92 and @FairAndUnbiased.

I'm serious here.