The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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A lot of vehicles aren't even burning at all. I don't see a single fire in a vehicle. That's like taking a photo then claiming everything in it is dead. Just to remind you, even a fire doesn't indicate a tank is dead. It could be expended ERA, or the drone burning on the tank's hull, or smoke launchers from the tank, or the tank extinguishing the fire, which produces smoke. Damaged tanks are often retrieved and repaired, and they come back. The Russians have an extensive network and infrastructure for this, and the Ukrainians used to, inherited from the Soviet Union, but has been relentlessly bombed out of existence. Hence a damaged Ukrainian tank is one less likely to be repaired and more frequently abandoned now, than a Russian tank which is resurrected often.

Let me add that Tonenke is already fallen, and Ukrainian bloggers often resurrect old footage.

In the meantime, three Bradleys are captured in Avdeyevka.

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Ukrainian S-300 tower 40V6M, radar 30N6 and S-300 launcher gets destroyed by Russian strikes near the border.

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Lancet takes out another Ukrainian 2S1 Gvozdika.

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Strikes on Abrams tanks. While the others are taken near Berdychi, the latest strike with a Lancet occurred some distance away with in another town.


 

SolarWarden

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Did you bother reading the comments to the Twitter posts you put here? Not all the vehicles shown destroyed in those pictures are Russian vehicles.

Expect to see a lot more of this happen until the end of the mud season when vehicles can speed up and go offroad again. Right now they are constrained to go through narrow paths at reduced speed which makes countering armored offensives easier.
Did you bother reading the part where I posted "pretty much?" :rolleyes:
 

gelgoog

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Nothing in the text you posted mentioned anything pertaining to the fact some of the destroyed vehicles in the picture were Ukrainian.
This is a typical Ukrainian tactic of trying to pass their own losses as Russian ones. They do it quite often.

The truth is Ukraine has been falling back across a huge part of the line of contact.
 

NinoNino

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Hello and sorry if this has been discussed before. What is know about Polish general supposedly killed in Ukraine, as well as several Polish special forces who were supposedly with him? Otherwise, quite a coincidence having a general and some soldiers die suddenly.

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SolarWarden

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Tendar with a great post how much gains Russian forces have made in last 6 months.

-I finally had some time to summarize the front movements of the last 6 months according to my maps. It is the same time period since the US Congress has been hampered by Trump and his allies to release the next military aid to Ukraine. I concluded the following numbers: Russian gains: 250.1 square kilometers / 96.6 square miles For comparison reasons I have included the Ukrainian gains from the counter offensive which kicked off in summer last year. Those are the numbers (minus the recent Russian gains): 297.7 square kilometers / 115.1 square miles I have included the maps with detailed distribution where those gains were achieved. The above mentioned numbers do not include the events around Krynky, respectively Kherson.
Basically Russians paying a huge price for little gains. Avdiivka battle alone, if you add trying to breakout, has cost the Russians more than a division of men and armored vehicles all this happening with Ukraine short on ammo yet somehow Odesa and Kyiv is still on the minds of many Russians.

T-90M getting destroyed by grenade
 

gelgoog

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Basically Russians paying a huge price for little gains. Avdiivka battle alone, if you add trying to breakout, has cost the Russians more than a division of men and armored vehicles all this happening with Ukraine short on ammo yet somehow Odesa and Kyiv is still on the minds of many Russians.
Adviivka was just the most fortified city in the whole of Ukraine. And they lost it. It is also nice of you to compare rates of advance in summer campaigns with rates of advance in winter campaigns.

Since we are talking about Odessa. Here is the typical Ukrainian soldier going around his business in Odessa.

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Tam

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Last six months, Ukraine never gained any significant or strategic territory.

Size of territory not as important as capturing important road junctions and all high ground positions.

Lost:

Marinka
Kromove
Ivanoske
Krasnohorivka
Vodyne
Optyne (Avdiivka)
Avdiivka
Stepvoe
Lastokine
Orlovka
Severne
Tonenske
Krynki (recaptured)
Podjoe

Ongoing Now in critical stage

Berdychi
Semenivka
Novomikhailovka
Rabotino (captured now back into grey zone, Russians captured east and south)
Kleeshevka (captured but now returned to the grey zone)
Heorivka
Pervomaysky
Bogdanovka

Assault imminent
Chasiv Yar
Krasnogorovka
Urozhayne
Terny

Summary: new 2S41 Drok self propelled mortar. 82mm. Chassis based on the Typhoon.

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Guided bombs hit Ukrainian formations at night.

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Zmievskaya TPP appears critically damaged. Won't be coming back online soon. Damage to the turbine rooms. They look knocked out.

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In Gulyaypol, land bridge used by Ukrainians for logistics destroyed.

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Ukrainian tank gets hit by ATGM in Krasnogorovka.

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FAB-1500 on a Ukrainian position in Chasiv Yar.

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Strong Russian drive taking two kilometers out of Tonenke.

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Novomikhailovka now semi-encircled.

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Zu-23-2 AA gun on a truck taken out by Lancet.

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FABs arriving at an undisclosed Ukrainian location.

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Ukrainian transport hit by artillery.

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Damage on strikes on buildings in Kharkhiv. Possibly a headquarters or barracks.

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Russian tank fire on Ukrainian positions in the Avdeyevka sector.

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FPV drones might be able to be used to defend the Black Sea Fleet against sea drones.

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Ukrainian hideout hit by artillery near the border.

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SolarWarden

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Adviivka was just the most fortified city in the whole of Ukraine. And they lost it. It is also nice of you to compare rates of advance in summer campaigns with rates of advance in winter campaigns.

Since we are talking about Odessa. Here is the typical Ukrainian soldier going around his business in Odessa.

Of course the US isn't participating in the war. Wink wink.
Yes yes every city/town it takes the Russians months and tens of thousands of men to gain 5-10kms is the most fortified... just like Vuhledar right? What is the excuse at Bakhmut? Russians can't seem to make any significant gains west of Bakhmut and when they try suffer heavy losses which is what is happening at Adviivka. Every time Russian forces try to push out they get hammered and stopped even as Ukraine suffers ammo shortage.

As for Odesa soldier... it's still cold and maybe he is still weary of covid, eh? :p

Everyone knows the US and other nations are involved in this war to some capacity as in IRS, weapons delivery and maybe even having """advisers""" when it comes to decision making but there is no US battalion or even a squad in Ukraine taking part in any combat. Just like Russian forces Ukraine forces also have mercenaries among their ranks and some are yank and Euro gentlemen.
 

gelgoog

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Yes yes every city/town it takes the Russians months and tens of thousands of men to gain 5-10kms is the most fortified... just like Vuhledar right? What is the excuse at Bakhmut? Russians can't seem to make any significant gains west of Bakhmut and when they try suffer heavy losses which is what is happening at Adviivka. Every time Russian forces try to push out they get hammered and stopped even as Ukraine suffers ammo shortage.
It is not just Russian forces which get hammered. It is just how things roll thanks to the drones. And like I said you can't move quickly because it's mud season which makes things even harder.

It's not just me saying Adviivka was a well fortified position.
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Your precious ISW said pretty much the same even last year. What I know is that Russia conquered Bakhmut and Adviivka. Both.
If Vuhledar was considered to be significant enough the Russians would have razed it to the ground already.

Everyone knows the US and other nations are involved in this war to some capacity as in IRS, weapons delivery and maybe even having """advisers""" when it comes to decision making but there is no US battalion or even a squad in Ukraine taking part in any combat. Just like Russian forces Ukraine forces also have mercenaries among their ranks and some are yank and Euro gentlemen.
You are too naive. Western troops are quite likely acting as systems operators in some cases. In cases where they operate behind the lines and are unlikely to be captured this is probably happening. We know from the German audio leak that the British program the Storm Shadow missiles with the target data. The Ukrainians just fly the aircraft with the missiles and pull the trigger.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if when the F-16 enters service over Ukraine, some won't be of the publicly mentioned F-16AM type, but of a much later Block 60 variant with AESA radar, operated by NATO troops. This is exactly the same thing the Soviets did in the Korean War with the MiG-15. They just operated the aircraft behind the combat lines so no pilots would be captured if the aircraft was downed.
 
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