Attitude to Sports In China

[bladerunner]

That is soo true. Espicially how rugby is not exaclty a sport that asian people excel at.
I myself go to Westlake D) and one of my Chinese friends (who can't speak proper english sadly) does rugby in one of the school's teams and has gained a lot of respect from his peers.
Respect is one thing, but acceptance is completely different, as he can't speak proper english (or at least has a strange accent) therefore he doesn't have that many friends...

Most asians here at least participate in the sports they feel most comfortable in, such as badminton, table tennis, tennis.. but there is a growing trend to try out in football, basketball.



IMO, if they want to excel in a popular western sport they should aim for basketball. We all know about Yao Ming, and I think China should "invest" in some equally tall people (or slightly less) but more skilled (because people say yao ming is a bit slow in his games sometimes).
It's a bit strange though, because lots of westerners consider Chinese people to be short....

Tell your friend not to be discouraged with his language disability, as its important that he tries to improve his English.
My son had a Chinese friend who has gone back to Hong Kong after living here since he was a child and he spoke English like he was FOB (that's fresh off the Boat, if youre' wondering popeye) The sad part of it is the boys Mother not only spoke perfect English but lectured in the Subject at university level. He was one of those Children that got dumped in a foreign country to be looked after by grandparents who did not speak English very well, while they returned home to work.

well many decades ago I went to school at Auckland Boys, probably the most prestigious school in the country and there was a Chinese boy there who captained the school basketball team and went on to earn national hours. I think he might have been captain. Even now I meet Chinese people with the same surname as this person and they complain, that any time they meet Westerners they are asked if they are related.
My younger brother went to the same school and during his time their a Chinese Lad became the schools 1st 15 halfback in Rugby. Now thats a mean achievement for a chinese lad to be in the Schools 1st 15, as Auckland Boys Grammar was also regarded nationally as the top rugby school.

 

[vesicles]

Scary thought China is also about to own the Cavs, which has Lebron James ~.`

What do you mean by that? Some Chinese company buying the Cavs? Personally, I want James to be traded to Houston

 

[bladerunner]

Asians slighter build may disadvantage them in the forwards when it comes to games such as Rugby Union, but they can play in the backline where size isn't so important.
Perhaps they can induct a few Mongolians who seem to enjoy the rough and tumble into the team

 

[Mightypeon]

Well, from my personal experience:

-Chinese have a very large pool, especially in Martial Arts.
It is not that much of a change to shift from things like San Da/San Shou to Kickboxing or Boxing, however, perception in Europe is lacking because a Chinese "Heavyweight" would be a European half cruiser.
In a San-Da competition i took part in (got my arse kicked ), weight classes "ended" at 85 + kg, in Germany they end at 100+. Was nice for our heavyweights because they fought people weighing a lot less then them (but they got their arses kicked too).

I also found that their training regiment and their diet was propably not suited for gaining a lot of musculature. I am not even talking about Steroids, its just that they, in my opinion, did not have enough relaxation times (Yes, there is such a thing as training too much) and did not take up enough proteins (I only visited 2 Wu Shu internats during my trip to China, in both cases the food was too few).
On the other hand, their seemingly (for me at least) endless and strict repition drills meant that they were technicially more proficient than our group was.

Last but not least, the schools I visited were very drill based, it felt a lot like an army instruction.

 

[bladerunner]

Well, from my personal experience:

-Chinese have a very large pool, especially in Martial Arts.
It is not that much of a change to shift from things like San Da/San Shou to Kickboxing or Boxing, however, perception in Europe is lacking because a Chinese "Heavyweight" would be a European half cruiser.
In a San-Da competition i took part in (got my arse kicked ), weight classes "ended" at 85 + kg, in Germany they end at 100+. Was nice for our heavyweights because they fought people weighing a lot less then them (but they got their arses kicked too).

I also found that their training regiment and their diet was propably not suited for gaining a lot of musculature. I am not even talking about Steroids, its just that they, in my opinion, did not have enough relaxation times (Yes, there is such a thing as training too much) and did not take up enough proteins (I only visited 2 Wu Shu internats during my trip to China, in both cases the food was too few).
On the other hand, their seemingly (for me at least) endless and strict repition drills meant that they were technicially more proficient than our group was.

Last but not least, the schools I visited were very drill based, it felt a lot like an army instruction.

That's interesting about the differences in weight divisions, and the Chinese boxers acquitted themselves well, during the last Olympics, but how much of that can you put down to the failure of Cuban and US teams?
Incorporating regimentilisation doesnt surprise me, as I suppose its one way of obtaining discipline and mobilising large groups of people to do things. Ive also read in the runup to the Olympics, some criticisms of the harsh training methods, made by visiting observers.

 

[pla101prc]

lol you havent seen China's pool of ping pong then. when i was in China last summer i went to this ping pong place, and i saw these lil 9 yr olds training like MAD...its like one lil boy facing two coaches at the same time, and the coach still dont seem to be satisfied with his performance...they must be training at an extremely high standard its insane.

 

[Propagandalass]

Maybe if they did kung-fu soccer training they'd win?

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, kinda. XD

 

[AssassinsMace]

Shaq's balls spark China row
Fri Jul 17, 1:21 am ET

BEIJING (Reuters) – The fate of four signed basketballs given by NBA great Shaquille O'Neal to Sichuan earthquake survivors sparked an Internet storm in China this week.

The 15-times All Star doled out the balls to four children on Tuesday when he was visiting a school in Mianyang, the city worst affected by the earthquake which killed more than 80,000 people last year.

The boys were devastated when the balls were subsequently confiscated by school staff and China's increasingly assertive Internet community rallied to their cause.

More than 90 percent of the 3,200 respondents to a Xinhuanet online poll felt the school had no right to take the gifts and comments on forums cast doubt upon official denials that they would be used for "private purposes," China Daily reported.

O'Neal, who is hugely popular in basketball-mad China, later dispatched replacement balls to the students.

"I never thought it would be like this. I can imagine how disappointed the boys must be," O'Neal told the paper.

(Reporting by Nick Mulvenney, editing by Ian Ransom)


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[bladerunner]

Some of the staff gonna flick them off for their retirement fund, no doubt, shame on them?

 

[bd popeye]

Some of the staff gonna flick them off for their retirement fund, no doubt, shame on them?

I agree. That is shameful. I hope those boys get to keep those baskeballs.

Have you guys heard that Yao Ming will miss the whole next NBA season??? Why did he wait so long for surgery??

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Yao’s absence looms as giant loss for league

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

Jul 18, 3:01 pm EDT

As soon as he bought the cash-strapped Shanghai Sharks, Yao Ming(notes) was pressured into a most defensive declaration: This wasn’t done as a retirement toy, but born of obligation to his hometown team. That’s how it goes for him now. That’s the reality of his every move. All across the world, the fears that Yao never plays basketball again are real and justified.

The Houston Rockets are counting on an innovative and complicated surgical procedure to repair the hairline fracture in his left foot. They hope it’ll ultimately create a base for his body that’ll withstand the unprecedented pounding delivered beneath his 7-foot, 6-inch frame. Nevertheless, Yao will miss next season and Houston officials operate with private doubts he’ll ever be a sturdy player again.

They won’t say this, because it does no good for Yao’s rehabilitation and the psyche of the Rockets faithful. Whatever happens, this has turned into one of the sport’s saddest stories. Yes, it’s reminiscent of Bill Walton’s saga, but Yao is a far bigger, far more important figure in basketball history. Yes, Walton could’ve been one of the most accomplished centers in history, but Yao’s powers have been truly transformative.

He changed everything for the NBA and David Stern, for China and the Far East. Together, they all conspired to use him, wear him out and ultimately toss him aside. For years, the Rockets played him too many minutes, and China played him too many summers for the national team.

As the global game goes, he’s basketball’s most important player since Michael Jordan. He’s the reason the world’s most populated country grew smitten with the NBA. He’s the reason that the NBA makes hundreds of millions of dollars out of the Far East, why its American players were treated like rock stars in the Beijing Olympics.


A lot of NBA players and commentators treated Yao with disdain upon his arrival, an overhyped stiff they promised to embarrass. Truth be told, there was a racial element to the criticism. Perhaps they didn’t want to believe an Asian could become an NBA star. Perhaps they feared an impending wave of Chinese 7-footers to gobble up jobs. Whatever the genesis, the criticisms of Yao pushed beyond legitimate basketball doubts and were nasty and needlessly personal.


Perhaps, there’s never been a modern athlete with the burden that belonged to Yao. For the Chinese sports machine, his birth to accomplished, athletic parents was treated like a science experiment. Brook Larmer’s magnificent book, “Operation Yao Ming,” told it all. He won the respect of his peers in the NBA. He worked relentlessly, and became an unstoppable force when his body was well. Three years ago, Yao was the NBA’s MVP until breaking his leg two months into the season.


His blessing turned out to be his curse: His deftness and mobility at 7-foot-6 could’ve been his undoing. His lower body couldn’t support the agility and crumbled beneath him. The Rockets believed they could’ve surrounded Yao with players and won multiple NBA championships.


Now, Rockets general manager Daryl Morey told Yahoo! Sports, “We feel like with Tracy [McGrady] healthy we can be a playoff team next year. Without T-Mac and Yao, we were 2-2 against the Lakers in the playoffs. One thing is for sure: We have players who will fight all season long. We sure aren’t giving up on this season.”

Morey has been too savvy of an executive to let the Rockets bottom out, and the Trevor Ariza(notes) signing could be a bargain for the next five years at $34 million. McGrady is nothing but an expiring contract now, and Yao could be remembered as the greatest what-could’ve-been story the sport’s ever seen.


Basketball has had a lot of folk heroes who never met their promise, but make no mistake about Yao Ming: He met his destiny. He brought the NBA to the world, and the world to the NBA. There are Hall of Fame players with MVP trophies and championship rings who never gave so much to the game. Yao Ming goes away for a year now, maybe more – maybe for good – but his legacy is untouchable.