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4Runner

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China basically needs a good recession to wipe out all these accumulated bad debts. It is an unfortunate coincidence however that it can't do that now because it is in great power contest with the US

Recession is always considered a bad thing but dig a little deeper and things become much more different
In parallel worlds of economic absurdity, US cannot deflate into a stock market melt-down; China cannot allow a housing market melt-down. So, paradoxically, there is no such thing as bad debts in China; there is no such thing as bad deficits in US. My point is that (1) we can forget about seeing a real bad debt crisis in China; and (2) we can forget about a real stock market crash in US.

In real economic worlds of people on the ground, China is not going to have a nominal recession any time soon, while US is actually going through a stealth recession for sometime now. US can muddle through the next general election cycle, while China can muddle through the next CCP congress cycle.

On relative terms, both China and US are in much better macro economic shape than any other meaningful country in the rest of the world. If everything else fails, China still is by far the largest and most productive industrial economy in the world.
 

Chevalier

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Jealous biatches wrote this when Chinese GDP growth was around 15%. Now that it is a “lackluster” 6% of course they are cumming like there is no tomorrow.

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It’s only really become clear to me just how much the white supremacist western chauvinists really envy China. Their clumsy attempts to “disprove” chinas 5000 years of continuous history is sheer envy when you look at their desperation to show how the Egyptians and Romans were “white” despite modern angloids having racial slurs against Italians and Greeks and Egyptians- or for the more unhinged ones, how Atlantis was a mighty hyperborean white civilisation.

This sort of behaviour is readily observed amongst pathetic Nationalists who contribute nothing to the corpus of humanity for eg the Korean nationalists who claim Chinese history and Jesus as their own, or the hindu nationalists who have become the south Asian version of Hoteps.
 

Chish

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Maybe someone explained that according to Modi’s minimum gdp per capita requirement India would be kicked out.
I think this means India want to set a minimum GDP per capita requirement far below India's.
Modi wants only richer countries to join, seemingly dealing with the world poorest countries wouldn't bring much benefits.
As with the '" no international sanctions " (meaning Western sanctions) requirement, India is keeping its very good relationship with the West and to set the stage in the future to marginarise China and Russia within BRICS.
Then technically, India with the new members and support from G7+,can kick China and Russia out.
 

supercat

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Data tells a different story on China economy from western MSM.

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Making Sense Of The China Meltdown Story​

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GAVEKAL RESEARCH | 23 AUG 2023


When western MSM was talking about China economy without macro context of apple-to-apple global comparison, they would essentially spread FUD. In the era of real-time global messaging, that brainwash strategy is not nearly as effective as last century. The largest real economy grows at 5% with potential deflationary pressure is not bad under any circumstances. Yet I am deafened by the western MSM propaganda on peak China ......
Here is one of the most important points of the article:
The immediate problem is not in the Chinese financial system, but in the US treasury market itself. If so, we are entering a new world in which US treasuries can no longer be thought of as the bedrock on which to build portfolios.
So it seems the economy of the US is in deeper trouble than China's. Here is an anecdote why this is the case:

I'm not worried about Western MSM's reporting about the Chinese economy. It has been like this for the past 20-30 years.

China is paying a lot to recruit IT talents.
The revamped recruitment drive, reported in detail by Reuters for the first time, offers perks including home-purchase subsidies and typical signing bonuses of 3 to 5 million yuan, or $420,000 to $700,000, the three people told Reuters.
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Stierlitz

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They should have waited for outcome of their Presidential election before accepting Argentina into alliance.

I want to be entirely clear dear reader as I've seen many commentators within Telegram who have clearly no clue about Argentine politics talking precisely about Argentine politics, this annoyance is probably the biggest reason for the creation of /SCI/

Argentina is not joining BRICS, regardless of the wishes of the president Alberto Fernández and the Economy "superminister" Sergio Massa of joining BRICS to access more debt for the country, it cannot happen because such membership requires being ratified in the Congress and the Senate, both of which the current administration has no majority in either today let alone in 2 months when the elections take place and the new makeup of congress is even more right-wing.

The "full membership" date is also January 1st which is 20 days after the new administration inauguration, either Javier Milei or Patricia Bullrich, both of which have profoundly rejected the idea of joining BRICS with Milei going a step further and rejecting the regional group Mercosur and rejecting diplomatic relations with the CCP, instead recognizing Taiwan as the legitimate Chinese government again.

For the aforementioned reasons, and as I've said before, Argentina is not joining BRICS.

⚡️ — Javier Milei criticizes Argentina's accession to BRICS: 'I won't ally with communists'; the BRICS expansion initiative was led by China, which is the largest economy in the group and accounts for nearly 70% of the bloc's GDP.

Two of the leading candidates for the Argentine Presidency, Javier Milei and Patricia Bullrich, have expressed their opposition to the country's entry into BRICS.

Milei (libertarian): "Our geopolitical alignment is with the United States and Israel. We will not align ourselves with communists. This does not mean that the private sector cannot trade with whomever they wish."

Bullrich (center-right): "The President [Alberto Fernández] is in a position of great weakness and is compromising Argentina. Under our government, the country will not be in BRICS."

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