Crisis in the Ukraine

Discussion in 'Members' Club Room' started by bd popeye, Jul 14, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Dannhill
    Offline

    Dannhill Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    599
    Likes Received:
    467
  2. delft
    Offline

    delft Brigadier

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,230
    Likes Received:
    6,750
    Re http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29842505:

    That must be the Bundeskanzlerin, not the president. Quality!

    And indeed, will there be war this winter? It is presumably up to EU to put enough pressure on Kiev but it does hold the purse strings.
     
  3. Jura
    Online

    Jura General

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    23,583
    Likes Received:
    27,630
  4. delft
    Offline

    delft Brigadier

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,230
    Likes Received:
    6,750
    Today remains of people have been found from the MH17 crash by Dutch searcher together with people from OSCE led by the local SES disaster service, according to the Dutch prime minister. I found this on the website of my favorite radio station. They apparently are not looking for evidence wrt the way the aircraft was destroyed.
     
  5. delft
    Offline

    delft Brigadier

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,230
    Likes Received:
    6,750
    Earlier today it was announced that the value of the Dutch export to Ukraine is this year half of what it was last year.
     
  6. SampanViking
    Offline

    SampanViking The Capitalist
    Staff Member Super Moderator VIP Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    2,673
    Likes Received:
    1,637
    Still unable to find any information official turnout figures for the elections by region. Every article on the subject does state that the turnout in South and Eastern Regions; which formally returned communist or Party of Regions deputies was very low and that very large numbers have boycotted the poll.
    At the very least, it seems certain that some 75% of voters in these regions have not participated in these elections and that in some areas the boycott was approaching 90%.

    So all eyes now on tomorrows poll in Donetsk and Lugansk.

    It is quite a configuration of forces, the poll, the military build up and ongoing tensions, the Russian recognition and the Ukrainian designing of part of the Minsk agreement, which all seem to push the situation back into open conflict, vs the Gas Deal which helps bring and holds all parties together.

    Forces then in conflict? If so we may get a sense tomorrow of which forces are the most powerful and ascendant and the direction in which the Ukraine situation will be pulled.
     
  7. bd popeye
    Offline

    bd popeye The Last Jedi
    VIP Professional

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    29,745
    Likes Received:
    23,628
    This morning I'm closing several threads laced with political discussion. Where as we do not allow political discussion in this forum. Political discussion brings out the worst in people in my opinion...Lies, hate squabbling discourse & contention.

    Some of you may ask why...here is why. I sent this email to WebMaster nine years ago.

    A thread on my email was established in the mod forum and after that discussion politics was squashed in this forum. Yes, it's old and the World has changed so has this forum..however I see the same things creeping in as they did nine years ago.

    There are many other forums online that allow political discussion. Use them if you wish to discuss politics.

    Here's a few links.

    Geo-strategic Issues - Defense Technology & Military Forum

    Political Discussions and Rants

    SkyscraperCity - Powered by vBulletin

    skyscrapercity is very large. You will find what you are looking for if you search long enough.

    WebMaster is the final authority in this forum. Contact WebMaster over establishing a political sub-forum in this forum at Defense Forum - Military Defence Technology Air Force Army Navy.

    Now I shall do what must be done because I'm a man of my word.

    THREAD CLOSED.


    bd popeye super moderator
     
Loading...
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page