ARM cuts ties with Huawei, threatening future chip designs

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  1. AndrewS
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    It's possible that Google cut off Huawei, if Huawei launch Ark OS.

    But remember the following:

    1. This will immediately raise a huge anti-trust investigation into Google (in China, Europe and possibly the USA) for blatantly abusing its monopoly.
    We're talking billions in fines.

    2. Huawei may have already decided that it may never be removed from the Entity List, and once Meng is extradited and convicted in a US court, it's just going to get worse again.
    In the medium-term, Huawei know they're always going to be at risk if they continue to rely on Google (or any other US tech), and if there is an ongoing trade war.
    Just look at what happened with the US-Japan trade wars previously.
    And this trade war is going to be worse because we're seeing a power transition from the USA to China, and which will take 10+ years

    So Huawei may have decided that they have no choice but to challenge Google, and create a Huawei/China/Global standard around Ark OS.

    And it is feasible to use the vast Chinese market to do this.
     
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    This is hilarious, so the Yankee Doodle Dandy's make a huge stink about how some Chinese law will mean the Chinese government can compel Huawei to divulge stuff but they merrily go and compel a British Bank to get information on Huawei's CFO! You can't make up this hypocrisy! Guess HSBC doing its best not to end up on China's Entity list given its massive exposure in Asia!
     
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    Not half as hilarious as some members here keeps harping on about how west respect international law, and there's always checks and balances. Blah blah blah.

    All the time.they keep pointing their fingers at China. The west is doing exactly what they said China is doing. Yet not a single squeak of protestations ever come from these members!
    Hypocrisy at its ugly best!
     
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    Following on from HSBC, it doesn't look good for Meng in a US court. As per the articles at the bottom.
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    Given the minor amounts involved in the Iran equipment deals, was it really worth it? I suspect Huawei regrets all this.
    That's leaving aside whether you agree with Iran sanctions or not.

    So when you add all of this together, I think Huawei sees that it has no choice but to remove any reliance on US technology.

    And that leads to the creation of a non-US technology world, backed by the Chinese market, which is many times larger than the US equivalent in most categories of tech.

    As for HSBC, it does look like they went beyond what was required, in the hope of being leniancy from billions in fines from the US government.
    So I don't see how HSBC can escape being made an example of, with an even larger penalty from the Chinese government.

    For example, there's a huge amount of money laundering in Hong Kong that HSBC is involved in, as the financial regulator has a very cosy relationship with the bank.
    So that relationship may well change

     
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    Of all the candidates on that debate stage Yang was given the least amount of time even though many others polled less than him. He also claimed his mic was at times cut off to prevent him from joining in a conversation... NBC denies it but supporters pointed out there were video evidence of this indeed happening.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...-after-yang-accuses-nbc-of-cutting-his-mic-in

    Bloomberg published article recently where it seems FBI is going around universities across America to deputize these campuses to do the governments bidding in keeping extra tabs on the Chinese students and Chinese researchers, whether or not they are US citizens. Case in point what happened to a cancer researcher in MD Anderson Houston, Texas... She, US citizen, was falsely accused of spying for China and although never actually charged much less convicted, she was basically shunned and effectively forced to resign her position which she worked at for 30 years.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-21/aoc-wasn-t-wrong-about-concentration-camps

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ng-chinese-americans-from-top-cancer-research

     
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    Idk why they're so worried about China if China has corruption, no democracy, pollution, crippling debt, expensive housing, low wages, aging population, and a population without creativity. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    They probably need to kick HSBC out. This British bank moved their HQ from Hong Kong to London many years ago. They still make most of their profits from Hong Kong.
     
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    I think that is too extreme a move.

    But it would be worth reminding HSBC that China/HK is way more important than the USA.
    Particularly since the US government keeps fining them billions of dollars.

    And remember that sometime in the future, HSBC will be one of the key players in building an alternative to the USD payment system
     
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    @Arkboy !!

    Sorry to get in contact only via this way, but to an unknown reason I cannot start a conversation with you behind the scene!

    Could you please explain what was the reason to start this insulting criminal thread in the strategic section? To accuse me I threatened you in person is beyond anything I ever had to notice in my already long life being active in several forums. :mad::eek:

    So please explain, why that mess??
     
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