What the Heck?! Thread

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  1. Jura
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    ... and now noticed (through Breaking News at gazeta. ru https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2017/01/07/n_9535115.shtml) this kinda update:
    Turkish police identify name of nightclub attacker: reports
    source: http://www.dailysabah.com/investiga...e-identify-name-of-nightclub-attacker-reports
    contains this picture:
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    Japan's stubborn refusal to even admit their past crimes to fellow Asians stands in stark contrast to the grovelling brown nosing Abe was doing in America a few weeks back for something that wasn't even a war crime.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38438714

    When has anyone from Asia heard any sort of 'sincere and everlasting' apology from Japan for far worse atrocities? :rolleyes:
     
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    unlike German government, nothing from Japan, let alone from Abe.

    Imagine if everytime Abe visited yasukuni, all Asian countries demanded Japanese ambasador to leave ....
     
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    To be honest, I'm glad Japan acts the way it acts. If it were to truly shed its past like Germany, it could become a much more influential and competitive country, especially in Asia. There is still stigma, in China, Korea and the South East, that you should avoid doing business with the Japanese or at give them a sour deal at the end because of history. Cooperation with the Japanese is seen as a shame and usually, anyone who does buy Japanese goods admits its because they were just so tempted by its cute culture though they know they did something morally unscrupulous. A Japan that walks out from its past shadows can shed (much of) this stigma and form a much stronger partner for the US, as it can cooperate without much friction with Korea. So I really do prefer for Japan to continue actively dragging itself through the dirt clinging to a past that sabotages its own present and future.

    I also believe that they reason they cling so stubbornly to this past even though it is clearly disadvantageous to do so is because WWII was a time that represented Japan's peak. It was a time when it could stand face to face and trade shot with shot against its current liege and master, which is now taller sitting down than Japan standing up. That is why they prefer to romanticize about this past time period rather than look to a much bleaker present and future.
     
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    True, but the more Japan ignores the past the bleaker their future will become, no matter how "cute" their anime culture are.
     
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    ooh la la
    Jared Kushner Named Senior White House Adviser to Donald Trump
    source: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/us/jared-kushner-senior-adviser-white-house-trump.html?_r=1
     
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    I don't agree with this pick. Trump or any POTUS should never appoint family members as part of his staff nevermind one as critical as the WH advisor.
    The US is not a frekin monarchy.
     
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    LOL! then you may try this one:
    Experts Urge Waiver for Mattis as Check on Trump Presidency
    source is DefenseNews http://www.defensenews.com/articles/experts-urge-waiver-for-mattis-as-check-on-trump-presidency
     
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    I will hold my opinion on torturing enemy combatants HOWEVER I think family members should be off limits unless said family members are equally culpable in the specific event.
    I do not believe torturing family members purely as a barganing tool is a wise strategy not to mention severely eroding the fundemental decency and the moral code of conduct.
    It's one thing to cut off a suspect's fingers but to cut off his daughter's fingers takes us all down a very dark and dangerous path.
    If Trump authorizes the military to go down that path I would hope the military would push back on it.

    Wasn't there a movie about this? I think Sam Jackson was in it.
     
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