US Navy MQ-25 Stingray Unmanned Aerial Tanker

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    This thread is about the new requirement that the US Navy has opened up for a drone Re-fueling tanker for its aircraft carriers.

    Please direct posts regarding that aicraft, the competition for it, and the status to this thread.

    What follows are several posts regarding it that had been posted on the X-47B Thread, which has dropped out of the competition and was a completely different requirement.:

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    Vice Admiral David C. Johnson http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=468
    had to say inside https://breakingdefense.com/2017/11/frigate-rfp-pioneers-new-shipbuilding-approach/
    article, in the part
    The Sting With Stingray

    The MQ-25 drone shows that, even if you use the new approach to acquisition, you don’t always get everything you want. As the Navy developed requirements for the unmanned, carrier-based refueling tanker, said Vice Adm. Johnson, it consulted intensively with the four competitors: Boeing, General Atomics, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman, which built the first carrier-launched drone, the X-47.

    “The CNO (Chief of Naval Operations John Richardson) personally met with all four… twice,” Johnson told reporters. “When they got the RFP, it was not a mystery.”

    When the Navy issued the final RFP, however, Northrop dropped out.

    “Personally, Dave Johnson, yes, I was surprised that Northrop decided to back out,” Johnson admitted. “(But) we knew that they were worried about the RFP because we had really tooled it towards the tanker,” designed for long endurance but not high performance. Northrop’s X-47 and its subsequent work had been geared towards the earlier concept called UCLASS, Unmanned Carrier-Launched Surveillance & Strike, which was not a tanker but an attack aircraft. “It would have taken some redesign to keep it cost competitive, performance competitive,” Johnson said.

    “It’s unfortunate. We thought they would stay in the competition,” he said, “but… we have three very capable folks still in.” Boeing and Lockheed are of course two of the biggest aerospace companies around, while General Atomics invented the iconic Predator drone. And Northrop Grumman, arguably, is better off knowing that MQ-25 was a bad fit for the company now, before it invested even more in winning it.

    Johnson is optimistic about the MQ-25. The Navy will choose a winner by Oct. 1st next year, with the first operational unit (Initial Operating Capability) in 2024. That’s fast for an all-new aircraft, especially a carrier-based one, Johnson said. Once the award is made, though, he thinks the Navy and its chosen contractor will be able to “go even faster.”
     
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    but
    U.S. Navy Shrugs Off Northrop’s MQ-25 Snub

    Nov 15, 2017 http://aviationweek.com/defense/us-navy-shrugs-northrop-s-mq-25-snub

     
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    Thursday at 7:50 PM
    and
    The Navy Says "Fly Before Buy" When It Comes To Its New MQ-25 Drone Tanker
    November 17, 2017 http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...y-when-it-comes-to-its-new-mq-25-drone-tanker

    ... goes on below due to size limit
     
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    continuation of the post right above:
    source: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...y-when-it-comes-to-its-new-mq-25-drone-tanker
     
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    Who knows the X47B might come back some day. It's not like they totally dismantled and completely wiped out the entire program.:)
     
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    according to FlightGlobal (dated 27 November, 2017) NAVAIR studies plugging MQ-25 ground system into carrier ATC
    source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...plugging-mq-25-ground-system-into-car-443649/
     
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    Navy expects MQ-25 decision by summer
    LOL I assume it's summer of 2018
    source is FlightGlobal https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/navy-expects-mq-25-decision-by-summer-443743/
     
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    I still believe that this is another one of those rediculous decisions coming out of the years of the Obama way of thinking...and all the decision makers he appointed and then that were promoted into positions to do this type of thing.

    Heck, we have plenty of relatively young, and still ver servicable S-3A/B air frames sitting in the desert that could do this job without developing anything new...that already are tested out and workable on the carriers and that already have done the refueling mission in the past.

    BRING THEM BACK.

    The do not waste money on this drone technology for the refueling mission...take it back to the UCLASS which was going along just fine, and had the possibility of (if they had stayed on track) awarding a contract for building that aircraft which would be very useflu to the US Navy right now. and would allow them to further augment and compliment the attack capabilities of the FA/!*Fs and the coming F-35Cs. And THAT is the mission that the carrier are built for in the first place.

    Heck the Vikings could be brought back in a LOT quicker and be refueling much sooner than it is going to take to deign this new robot to do the same mission.
     
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    and in the meantime Boeing offers sneak peek of MQ-25 tanker drone https://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/12/19/boeing-offers-sneak-peek-of-mq-25-tanker-drone/
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    now noticed
    New Details Emerge In Boeing's First Video Of Its Carrier-Based Tanker Drone
    January 3, 2018 http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...first-video-of-its-carrier-based-tanker-drone

    and here's that tweet: https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/948584823861497858
    Boeing Defense‏Verified account @BoeingDefense 15h15 hours ago




    Happy New Year, @USNavy! Our #MQ25 proposal is in, and we’re heading back to the ramp with our #UAS tanker - robust and ready to extend your flight range! #BoeingMQ25
    [don't know how to link here the vid which follows]
     
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