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    @Jura

    Missed your link. The first unit will indeed come out more expensive. But looking after that, we can see in FY21: $842M for the subsequent unit.
     
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    what "we can see" is spin doctoring before it's even a program of record
     
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    It was planned as the weapon of choice for intercepts for superbug as well.
    But Congress went "why do you need long-range missile you can't even employ to the fullest when you have such a nice AMRAAM?"
     
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    @Jura
    The USNI article states that $950 million is the threshold cost. In the comments section, a poster claimed the following (from Navy SCN budget request):
    FY20 SCN Budget calls for ~$1.2B for 1 FFG(x) - first in class production
    FY21: $842M for 1 FFG(x)
    FY22: $1.75B for 2 FFG(x)
    FY23: $1.79B for 2 FFG(x)
     
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    a gullible public is the target group of any "budget request" info

    what matters is if something is, or isn't, a program of record

    EDIT in simple words:
    No Money, No Honey
     
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    here comes an interesting story
    Shipbuilding Industry Struggles to Recruit And Retain Workforce https://news.usni.org/2019/06/21/shipbuilding-industry-struggles-to-recruit-and-retain-workforce
     
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    The Radar in the Bugs was to short for it. And early Rhino have that same Radar.
     
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    The public body is just a consumer of information and as such is agnostic on cost. The institution that is constantly shooting itself in the foot is the USN's tendency to low ball on the numbers and consequently breaching budget spending guidelines. I am afraid the same will happen with the FFG (X) program. Given that the specs are now basically defined, I think it is more than likely the FFG (X) will come in at around $1,2 Billion a boat. The threshold of $950 million is not realistic. In comparison, the Type 26 is expected to cost between $1,2 - $1.5 Billion each. Their respective capabilities are very similar. Years ago when the survivability of the LCS was debated, the Navy estimated that it would cost up to $950 million to build the LCS up to the Oliver Perry standard. Currently what is unclear to me is the planned survivability standard of the FFG (X). By compromising on the standard, it might be able to build a cheaper boat but then we are back to a conversion about survivability.

    The EASR radar which is basically a nine RMA configuration has been established to be equivalent to the SPY-1 (D) in sensitivity i.e. range. Effectively, the FFG (X) is a mini Burke and will need the power and cooling requirement that comes with such capability. .
     
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    A shame, though. Both AAAMs were really incredible concepts in multiple ways.
     
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