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    It's the FFR99 a unmanned recon fighter from a sci-fi anime. I was getting tired of the TOG II tank.
     
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    http://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/ffr-41mr-mave-and-frx-99-rafe
    LOL
     
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    Yet, the Pentagon informed Congress in 2010 the F-35 program was going to go 50% over the original estimates:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/loc...eeds-f-35-fighter-soars-idUSN1123180820100312

    That 50% climb is almost assuredly more than $15B.

    re: F-35 successful or not:

    Replacing the aircraft before it with greater capabilities. The Harrier replacement alone works out as a 'success.'

    As you noted, $2B was spent between 1995 to 2000 on the CALF/JAST/JSF. In two years, the NGAD has spent ~$900M (~$600M Y2K dollars). The F-35 started as a /DARPA/ Program that had to be transitioned into the rest of the Pentagon. Even then, there was resistance: the USAF wanted the MRF program, not the JAST and the USN wanted the AFX. The USMC realized tying them altogether was the only way /they/ would get a Harrier replacement.

    Even adjusting for inflation, the NGAD will have spent the equivalent of what the F-35 did by FY21 in 4 years instead of 5 and it is attempting to do a far more focused aircraft development than the F-35 was. A better comparison would be the ATF program, which case, we'll be at the same amount of money spent (adjusted for inflation) as the ATF was in 1988 in FY20.

    If I may ask, do you think the LRSB/B-21 is underfunded?
     
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    LOL


    OK

    though I tend to think as in Aug 4, 2016
    if you know what I mean


    could be I was wrong about "comically low" Yesterday at 9:15 AM
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    oh I wouldn't know as its funding is classified

    Mr. Osborn now:
    Details of the new B-21 Raider bomber that's a secret even to Congress https://www.businessinsider.com/det...omber-thats-a-secret-even-to-congress-2017-11
     
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    hmmm. Can't be that classified:

    https://apps.dtic.mil/descriptivesum/Y2019/AirForce/stamped/U_0604015F_4_PB_2019.pdf

    Development is to be completed 2025 and IOC is expected then.
     
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    inside the document you posted I can see
    2017 1290m
    2018 2004
    2019 2314
    2020 3009
    2021 3056
    2022 2945
    2023 2665
    _________
    sum 17283

    interestingly, "The development programme alone is estimated to cost $23.5 billion." according to 2015 FlightGlobal link https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...kheed-protest-usafs-bomber-award-to-n-418723/

    just thinking aloud
     
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    And if you assume $2.5B to$3B for FY24 and FY25, you roughly get the number FG posted.

    However, if we're going down /this/rathole, may I suggest we move it to the LRSB thread?

    I posted here asking if you thought it was underfunded vs expectations as a comparison to the NGAD.
     
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    took it there A moment ago
     
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    and
    Russia claims US ignoring outreach on nuclear treaty dispute https://www.militarytimes.com/flash...-ignoring-outreach-on-nuclear-treaty-dispute/
     
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    https://breakingdefense.com/2018/12...ll-get-israeli-anti-missile-system-iron-fist/
    So Abrams Trophy, Bradley Iron Fist.
    My expectation is Iron fist on Stryker.
    Although a version of Trophy was once demo'd on a Stryker. And both Rafael and IMI (Elbit) though there partners have created and shown versions of there "Family of Systems" on JLTV.
     
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