US Air Force LRS-B Bomber Thread

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    hey, check the US Thread
     
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    Apples to apples. I'm talking fly away cost, not total program cost/units produced.
     
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    Smile. it's on camera. At least for northrop:

    https://theaviationist.com/2014/03/28/mystery-aircraft-over-amarillo/

    As I said, demonstrators. That doesn't mean prototypes.

    Northrop claims below $550M in 2015 $. Note. All the development is on a cost plus. The manufacturing is on a firm, fixed price.

    it should be noted, the USAF forced a mission change on the B-2 the first time around. Originally, it was going to be a high altitude bomber. The USAF during the 80s wanted it to go low altitude. That forced two more years of development, delayed the program and increased the price. The RCO is running things differently. No changes for capabilities or mission, etc. If they stick to it, I bet they get the $ right.

    However, I've been wrong before and will be again.

    When were we talking raptors?
     
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    "Brain Fart" I was trying to repeat your B-2 2.1, sorry.....
     
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    No worries. Just wanted to make sure. best to ask rather than assume.

    You have Raptors on the brain, my friend. :)
     
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    Yes, Raptors, Cardinal's, motorcycles, cars, Smith and Wessons, all that kool stuff,, but again, the Raptor is a very important airplane? no?
     
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    True, but I liked the YF-23 more. ;)
     
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    I understand, I have a YF-23 and an F-22 on my flight simulator,, Jeff Head is also a big fan of the YF-23,,, like the Beech Bonanza, those V-tails look exotic, get rid of two more control surfaces, so you have less drag, and fewer reflective surfaces..

    So either of those two designs would be fine with me, the YF-23 is also a high speed, high altitude fighter, very L/O, but it would have to grow a little in the real world, for my money, they could both upsize to increase internal weapons bay size and still be extremely agile...

    I would also dispense with OVT, heavy, maintenance intensive, and gain a lot more fuel and thrust, either of them should be built with the new high zoot upgrade engines..

    but I will add this caveat, when you get rid of control surfaces, you have LESS control... think about it, the V-tail Bonanza had a really bad "tail wag" at speed in turbulence, the solution?? and "Air Skeg", yep, just a couple of lower fuselage strakes to anchor the tail...

    and nobody has flow a tailless design supersonic for that very reason....

    as for LRS-B, I'm rather certain that LRS-FB would be my flavor of the day
     
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    F-23A production candidate blues are availible for several years already. (another widow fan here)
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    Now that was a beautiful, elegant looking aircraft. Always loved the Black Widow over the Raptor, hands down.
     
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